[KS] Koreanstudies Digest, Vol 102, Issue 34

Donald Clark dclark at trinity.edu
Fri Dec 9 22:29:24 EST 2011 

This is rich. The first time I saw a wood-burning truck was right
after the Korean war in Seoul, and it seemed unbelievable then. Left
over from the Japanese occupation.
The first time I saw a charcoal-fueled wood burning army truck in
North Korea up a valley I thought it was on fire and the handlers just
laughed at me. Actual pictures of the total effect--a truck belching
huge clouds of smoke that carry all the way across the valley--are
hard to come by.  I wanted to take a photo but didn't quite dare.
There are a couple on the internet but hard to find a really good one.
Don Clark

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>   1. Re: What is the history and use of charcoal in South Korea?
>      (Dr. Edward D. Rockstein)
>   2. Re: What is the history and use of charcoal in South Korea?
>      (Afostercarter at aol.com)
>   3. Re: What is the history and use of charcoal in South Korea?
>      (McCann, David)
>   4. Re: What is the history and use of charcoal in South Korea?
>      (Dr. Edward D. Rockstein)
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> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:08:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Dr. Edward D. Rockstein" <ed4linda at yahoo.com>
> To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
> Subject: Re: [KS] What is the history and use of charcoal in South
>        Korea?
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> If I remember correctly from 40+ years ago there is a short mention in Yi Il-lo's [??? 1152~1220]? P'ahan-jip [???] about officials being ordered to make charcoal to prepare ink and other supplies for Royal use.Hope this helps. Ed Rockstein
>
> Dr. Edward D. Rockstein
>
> ed4linda at yahoo.com??
>
> Those who corrupt the public mind are just as evil as those who steal from the public purse--Adlai Stevenson
>
>
> --- On Fri, 12/9/11, Knigel Holmes <i at knigel.com> wrote:
>
> From: Knigel Holmes <i at knigel.com>
> Subject: [KS] What is the history and use of charcoal in South Korea?
> To: koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws
> Date: Friday, December 9, 2011, 12:15 AM
>
> Thank you all for helping me with finding out if the myth behind the
> Tancheon (The Stream of Charcoal) was actual Korean folklore. I have,
> unexpectedly, become obsessed with charcoal. I hadn't realised how
> much charcoal was, and continues to be, used in Korean society. I've
> been learning about the charcoal kiln saunas, "white charcoal',
> charcoal air fresheners, and lumps of charcoal over gates to fend off
> evil spirits from birthing women; however, I'm having a bit of trouble
> finding out some of the other historic details in English about
> charcoal. I'm wondering if any of the anthropologists, or anyone else,
> could direct me to some history or folklore on charcoal in Korean
> society. I'm interested in any tidbit or fascinating fact. I
> appreciate your help a lot.
>
> Kindness,
> Knigel
>
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> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:50:51 -0500 (EST)
> From: Afostercarter at aol.com
> To: koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws
> Cc: i at knigel.com
> Subject: Re: [KS] What is the history and use of charcoal in South
>        Korea?
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> In case your interest in charcoal also extends north
> of the DMZ, you may care to take a deep breath,
> cover your mouth, hold your nose and contemplate
> North Korea's surely unique (in 2011) contribution  to
> energy inefficiency, forest depletion, and air  pollution
> - three hits in one! - namely, charcoal-burning  trucks:
>
> _http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/03/03/2010030301014.html_
>
> (http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/03/03/2010030301014.html)
>
>
> They actually boast about this, as I noted some years  ago:
>
> _http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/DH14Dg01.html_
> (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/DH14Dg01.html)
>
> A more academic account, with pictures, is at
> _http://japanfocus.org/-Peter-Hayes/3233_
> (http://japanfocus.org/-Peter-Hayes/3233)
>
> Unbelievable but true, like much else about the  DPRK.
>
> Kind regards
> Aidan FC
>
>
> Aidan  Foster-Carter
> Honorary Senior Research  Fellow in Sociology & Modern Korea, Leeds
> University, UK
> E: _afostercarter at aol.com_ (mailto:afostercarter at aol.com)
> _afostercarter at yahoo.com_ (mailto:afostercarter at yahoo.com)    W: _www.aidanfc.net_
> (http://www.aidanfc.net/)
> W in Korea:
> _http://web.archive.org/web/20090202080126/http://aidanfc.net/index.html_
> (http://web.archive.org/web/20090202080126/http://aidanfc.net/index.html)
> ______________
>
> In a message dated 12/9/2011 09:13:54 GMT Standard Time, i at knigel.com
> writes:
>
> Thank  you all for helping me with finding out if the myth behind the
> Tancheon  (The Stream of Charcoal) was actual Korean folklore. I have,
> unexpectedly,  become obsessed with charcoal. I hadn't realised how
> much charcoal was, and  continues to be, used in Korean society. I've
> been learning about the  charcoal kiln saunas, "white charcoal',
> charcoal air fresheners, and lumps  of charcoal over gates to fend off
> evil spirits from birthing women;  however, I'm having a bit of trouble
> finding out some of the other historic  details in English about
> charcoal. I'm wondering if any of the  anthropologists, or anyone else,
> could direct me to some history or  folklore on charcoal in Korean
> society. I'm interested in any tidbit or  fascinating fact. I
> appreciate your help a  lot.
>
> Kindness,
> Knigel
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:34:32 -0500
> From: "McCann, David" <dmccann at fas.harvard.edu>
> To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
> Subject: Re: [KS] What is the history and use of charcoal in South
>        Korea?
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> Let us not forget the charcoal briquets, y?nt'an, used for home room heating in the 1960's.  Extremely dangerous, as I discovered one night when the prevailing winds in Andong shifted and the gas came near killing me.  Many fatalities did occur in those years.
>
> David McCann
>
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2011, at 1:50 PM, <Afostercarter at aol.com<mailto:Afostercarter at aol.com>> <Afostercarter at aol.com<mailto:Afostercarter at aol.com>> wrote:
>
> In case your interest in charcoal also extends north
> of the DMZ, you may care to take a deep breath,
> cover your mouth, hold your nose and contemplate
> North Korea's surely unique (in 2011) contribution to
> energy inefficiency, forest depletion, and air pollution
> - three hits in one! - namely, charcoal-burning trucks:
>
> http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/03/03/2010030301014.html
>
> They actually boast about this, as I noted some years ago:
> http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/DH14Dg01.html
>
> A more academic account, with pictures, is at
> http://japanfocus.org/-Peter-Hayes/3233
>
> Unbelievable but true, like much else about the DPRK.
>
> Kind regards
> Aidan FC
>
> Aidan Foster-Carter
> Honorary Senior Research Fellow in Sociology & Modern Korea, Leeds University, UK
>
> E: afostercarter at aol.com<mailto:afostercarter at aol.com>     afostercarter at yahoo.com<mailto:afostercarter at yahoo.com>   W: www.aidanfc.net<http://www.aidanfc.net/>
> W in Korea:  http://web.archive.org/web/20090202080126/http://aidanfc.net/index.html
>
> ______________
>
> In a message dated 12/9/2011 09:13:54 GMT Standard Time, i at knigel.com<mailto:i at knigel.com> writes:
> Thank you all for helping me with finding out if the myth behind the
> Tancheon (The Stream of Charcoal) was actual Korean folklore. I have,
> unexpectedly, become obsessed with charcoal. I hadn't realised how
> much charcoal was, and continues to be, used in Korean society. I've
> been learning about the charcoal kiln saunas, "white charcoal',
> charcoal air fresheners, and lumps of charcoal over gates to fend off
> evil spirits from birthing women; however, I'm having a bit of trouble
> finding out some of the other historic details in English about
> charcoal. I'm wondering if any of the anthropologists, or anyone else,
> could direct me to some history or folklore on charcoal in Korean
> society. I'm interested in any tidbit or fascinating fact. I
> appreciate your help a lot.
>
> Kindness,
> Knigel
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 14:19:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Dr. Edward D. Rockstein" <ed4linda at yahoo.com>
> To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
> Subject: Re: [KS] What is the history and use of charcoal in South
>        Korea?
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> The Japanese used charcoal burning vehicles before and during WWII. Ibuse Masuji ???? wrote a story "The Charcoal Bus" [Noriai jidosha ???????] translated by Ivan Morris, I believe.
>
> Dr. Edward D. Rockstein
>
> ed4linda at yahoo.com??
>
> Those who corrupt the public mind are just as evil as those who steal from the public purse--Adlai Stevenson
>
>
> --- On Fri, 12/9/11, Afostercarter at aol.com <Afostercarter at aol.com> wrote:
>
> From: Afostercarter at aol.com <Afostercarter at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [KS] What is the history and use of charcoal in South Korea?
> To: koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws
> Cc: i at knigel.com
> Date: Friday, December 9, 2011, 1:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In case your interest in charcoal also extends north
>
> of the DMZ, you may care to take a deep breath,
> cover your mouth, hold your nose and contemplate
> North Korea's surely unique (in 2011) contribution
> to
> energy inefficiency, forest depletion, and air
> pollution
> - three?hits in one! - namely, charcoal-burning
> trucks:
> ?
> http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/03/03/2010030301014.html
> ?
>
> They actually boast about this, as I noted some years
> ago:
> http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/DH14Dg01.html
> ?
> A more academic account, with pictures, is at
> http://japanfocus.org/-Peter-Hayes/3233
> ?
> Unbelievable but true, like much else about the
> DPRK.
> ?
> Kind regards
> Aidan FC
> ?
>
> Aidan
> Foster-Carter
> Honorary Senior Research
> Fellow in Sociology & Modern Korea, Leeds University, UK
> ?
> E: afostercarter at aol.com???? afostercarter at yahoo.com?? W: www.aidanfc.net ???
> W in Korea:?
> http://web.archive.org/web/20090202080126/http://aidanfc.net/index.html
> ?
> ______________
> ?
> In a message dated 12/9/2011 09:13:54 GMT Standard Time, i at knigel.com
> writes:
> Thank
>  you all for helping me with finding out if the myth behind the
> Tancheon
>  (The Stream of Charcoal) was actual Korean folklore. I have,
> unexpectedly,
>  become obsessed with charcoal. I hadn't realised how
> much charcoal was, and
>  continues to be, used in Korean society. I've
> been learning about the
>  charcoal kiln saunas, "white charcoal',
> charcoal air fresheners, and lumps
>  of charcoal over gates to fend off
> evil spirits from birthing women;
>  however, I'm having a bit of trouble
> finding out some of the other historic
>  details in English about
> charcoal. I'm wondering if any of the
>  anthropologists, or anyone else,
> could direct me to some history or
>  folklore on charcoal in Korean
> society. I'm interested in any tidbit or
>  fascinating fact. I
> appreciate your help a
>  lot.
>
> Kindness,
> Knigel
>
>
>
> ?
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