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Dear Will, and others following this thread,<br>
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Thanks for the correction. In fact,
I was not completely sure how the name of the Vietnamese author, which
reads "Pan P'aeju" in Korean, should be put in Vietnamese.
Interestingly, the book used to be included into some editions of Liang's
collected works printed posthumously. As far as I could understand, the
only academic work in South Korean historiography that analyses the
influence of The Wollam wang guksa in some details, is Ch'oe KiyOng's
paper, entitled "KugyOk Wollam wang guksa e kwanhan ilgoch'al",
and printed in <Tonga YOn'gu>, Vol. 6, 1985 (reprinted in
<Han'guk kUndae Kyemong Undong YOn'gu>, Ilchogak, 1997). But,
unfortunately, Ch'oe doesn't analyze this work in the wider context of
the development of ideas of "anti-hegemonic solidarity" in
Korea, although it seems to be only natural to remember, for example,
wide interest about Chang ChiyOn-translated A<i>egUp kUnsesa</i> (Recent
History of Egypt - printed by HwangsOng sinmun sa in 1905, with Pak
Unsik's highly impassioned foreword) in this context. Inspired partly by
Liang Qichao's philippics against the "new methods of ruining
[others'] countries" devised by the Europeans, and partly by some
currents in Japanese Pan-Asianism, this current of thought seems to leave
a strong imprint in Korean intellectuals' consciousness - and eventually,
some of the earlier readers of Phan Boi Chau and Liang Qichao became
Communists and Anarchists in the 1920s, and converted
"Asianism" into "anti-imperialist solidarity".<br>
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Yours,<br>
Vladimir <br>
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At 15:41 30.09.2003 -0400, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Vladimir,<br>
<br>
One correction: The Wollam wang guksa (Viet nam vong quoc su) was not
written <br>
by Liang Qichao. He did write the dedication to it. The work (translated
into <br>
Korean in about 1905) was by the Vietnamese intellectual-activist Phan
Boi <br>
Chau.<br>
<br>
Will Pore<br>
<br>
>===== Original Message From Vladimir Tikhonov
<vladimir.tikhonov@east.uio.no> <br>
=====<br>
>Dear Ann,<br>
><br>
>Frankly, the idiosyncratic interpretation of the minjung literature
as<br>
>"democratic" (in the current American sense of the world)
looks to me<br>
>biased not that much ethnically/racially as ideologically. What
is<br>
>omitted/sidelined is obvious
anti-imperialist/socialist/"third<br>
>world"-solidarist self-identification of many minjung authors.
By the way,<br>
>I sense really strong "dominant" bias in terming all the
plethora of<br>
>anti-systemic movements in contemporary South Korea either
"nationalist" or<br>
>"anti-American". "MinjokjuUi" was, for many of
the proponents of the<br>
>movement, as much "nationalism" as
"third-worldism" - in the 1980s, they<br>
>clandestinely read on Ho Chi Minh, and in the late 1990s, Che Gevara
became<br>
>a new star. That were exactly the heirs of the 1980s movement who
started<br>
>in the late 1990s the campaign of disclosure of the atrocities
committed by<br>
>Park Chong Hee army in South Vietnam - and this campaign was moved
exactly<br>
>by the passion for Asian/"third world" solidarity. In fact,
this all goes<br>
>back very deep, down to the times in the 1900s when the
anti-colonial<br>
>narrative on the demise of Vietnam (WOllam Mangguksa in Korean, by
Liang<br>
>Qichao and a Vietnamese anti-colonial activist) was the must-read
among the<br>
>"new intelligentsia". But I guess that this side of the
minjung movement -<br>
>the most dangerous for the US hegemony in the long run - was
largely<br>
>sidelined by some of the "mainstream" American narratives
on the subject.<br>
><br>
>With best greetings,<br>
><br>
>Vladimir<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>At 11:35 28.09.2003 -0700, you wrote:<br>
>> Dear Vladimir,<br>
>><br>
>>I will give an example of the relevance of the politics of race
in Asian<br>
>>studies.<br>
>>When I, as an Asian American not born in Korea, discuss Korean
minjung<br>
>>nationalist literature, am I not using Western dominant
narratives of<br>
>>democratic revolution, and thereby serving the mythic, hegemonic
American<br>
>>ideology of "melting pot"? As Rey Chow notes, it
is important to<br>
>>recognize Koreans' lived experiences of the ideology of
democracy, and<br>
>>Koreans' perceptions and translations of that ideology. In
the U.S.,<br>
>>"certain ethnic groups, as a result of racism, will never be
able to enact<br>
>>in full "the script of "consent." (Wong,
1993:41): "With European<br>
>>ethnics, there is enough cultural congruence with the Anglo
mainstream,<br>
>>and enough reality in the promised rewards of assimilation, to
validate<br>
>>the rhetoric of consensual nation-building and blunt the damage
of<br>
>>generational divisions. Asian Americans are socialized into
embracing the<br>
>>same expectations but are denied their full realization on a
collective<br>
>>basis." (Wong 1993: 43).<br>
>><br>
>>Ann<br>
>><br>
>>Citation:<br>
>>Sau-ling Cynthia Wong, Reading Asian American Literature: From
Necessity<br>
>>to Extravagance (Princeton: Princeton Univerrsity Press,
1993).<br>
>><br>
>>----- Original Message -----<br>
>>From:
<<a href="mailto:vladimir.tikhonov@east.uio.no" eudora="autourl">mailto:vladimir.tikhonov@east.uio.no</a>>Vladimir
Tikhonov<br>
>>To:
<<a href="mailto:Koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws" eudora="autourl">mailto:Koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws</a>>Korean
Studies Discussion List<br>
>>Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:59 AM<br>
>>Subject: Re: [KS] can Asian Americans have a voice in Asian
Studies?<br>
>><br>
>>Dear colleagues,<br>
>><br>
>>if what Ann Lee writes about the atmosphere of the "WASP
domination" in<br>
>>our field in the USA is true (as I have never been over there, it
is hard<br>
>>for me to assess the situation on my own), that I cannot help
concluding<br>
>>that, perhaps, old Soviet Union wasn't the worst of all possible
worlds.<br>
>>Several prominent ethnic Korean scholars won recognition in
their<br>
>>respective special fields (M.N.Pak - ancient history, G.F.Kim -
North<br>
>>Korean politics, Lim Su - folk sayings, etc.) as "dominant
authorities",<br>
>>so to say, and I really don't remember any talks about
"tribe wars" along<br>
>>ethnic lines among their students, so ethnically mixed as
they were. I<br>
>>don't think anybody really questioned - or would ever question -
the<br>
>>loyalty of the ethnic Korean "patriarchs" of
Soviet/Russian Korean Studies<br>
>>to Soviet/Russian culture or research traditions. Perhaps - I
just guess -<br>
>>it was old intelligentsia tradition of fighting against
official<br>
>>antisemitism/"patriotic" chauvinism in Tzarist Russia,
in combination with<br>
>>Tzarist/Soviet tradition of absorbing ethnically heterogeneous
local<br>
>>elites, that precluded any ethnic divisions in the Korean Studies
field?<br>
>>Anyway, I can only hope that the immunity to racialist taxonomies
will<br>
>>survive in Russia, despite all the efforts to the contrary on the
part of<br>
>>its today's rulers...<br>
>><br>
>>Vladimir Tikhonov<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>At 15:28 25.09.2003 -0700, you wrote:<br>
>>>Dear list,<br>
>>><br>
>>>I have failed in my bid to be a cultural comprador.<br>
>>>Collecting my unemployment checks, I have time to read what I
want to read.<br>
>>>I can't help asking myself whether or not Asian Americans can
have a<br>
>>>voice in Asian Studies.<br>
>>>Orientalists remind us that only a native's
"access" to Asian culture<br>
>>>could possibly give an Asian any use value in the
field. This results in<br>
>>>pitting Asian Americans (issei, nisei, 1.5 generations, and
in betweens)<br>
>>>against each other -- a divisive strategy that succeeds
because of the<br>
>>>economics of Necessity, in which Asian Americans are only too
willing to<br>
>>>sell each other out in order to survive. It is a
strategy that pre-empts<br>
>>>any possible alliances that Asian Americans might try to
form, alliances<br>
>>>that dominant whites find threatening.<br>
>>>I remember a male WASP professor at Harvard (now at a
different school)<br>
>>>asking department majors to introduce ourselves and our
reasons for<br>
>>>majoring in East Asian Studies. One Asian student,
recently immigrated,<br>
>>>said he wanted to study his culture. I said I had a
somewhat academic<br>
>>>interest in Asia, rather than studying it as "my
culture," since I was<br>
>>>born in N.Y.C. and grew up here.<br>
>>>The WASP male professor, perhaps sensing a smugness in my
attitude,<br>
>>>immediately said, "But isn't that what it is?
_Your_ culture?" It was a<br>
>>>harsh rebuke of my confidence in my American identity.
My skin color<br>
>>>meant, to him, that I would never be accepted as an
American.<br>
>>><br>
>>>Ann Lee<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>Vladimir Tikhonov,<br>
>>Department of East European and Oriental Studies,<br>
>>Faculty of Arts,<br>
>>University of Oslo,<br>
>>P.b. 1030, Blindern, 0315, Oslo, Norway.<br>
>>Fax: 47-22854140; Tel: 47-22857118<br>
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><br>
>Vladimir Tikhonov,<br>
>Department of East European and Oriental Studies,<br>
>Faculty of Arts,<br>
>University of Oslo,<br>
>P.b. 1030, Blindern, 0315, Oslo, Norway.<br>
>Fax: 47-22854140; Tel: 47-22857118<br>
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Department of East European and Oriental Studies,<br>
Faculty of Arts,<br>
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P.b. 1030, Blindern, 0315, Oslo, Norway.<br>
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