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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:blue'>As one who
did pursue history, and specifically Korean history (thanks, Mark, for
including me, though under my maiden name; I earned my degree as Sherrill
McCullough Davis), I would just like to comment that never, at any point in my
long education, did I feel “steered” away from history! Nor did I
ever feel directed toward language and literature fields. Nor did I ever
observe (or feel) that male students were more likely to be encouraged to study
history. Looking back on my own experience, in fact, I find that a surprising
observation. Obviously, I can’t speak to what’s happening at the
current time. And that I ended up not pursuing an academic career in the field
had mostly to do with personal inclination, and partly with the then relative
paucity of positions, not any lack of encouragement on the part of my faculty
mentors or colleagues in the field. Finally, though I won’t continue to
engage in this discussion myself, I do believe that others might take issue
with the notion that history is “more definitive in creating a historical
framework of human experience,” and I believe they would be correct to do
so.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:blue'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:blue'>Sherri
Davis<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> karen palmer
[mailto:karen_palmer01@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 17, 2005
6:37 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> mark_peterson@byu.edu; Korean
Studies Discussion List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [KS] women ph.d.'s in
korean history</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>While women are more broadly included in Korean studies in the fields
of language and literature, it is my experience as well that women are directed
more towards these fields and that male students are more likely to be
encouraged to study history, which in turn is considered to be more definitive
in creating a historical framework of human experience. While women may be
"included" in such a sense, there seems to be no particular rationale
for the gender imbalance in the creation of new knowledge regarding historical
frameworks. Instead, there is possible implication that women are
"relegated" to the fields of language and literature.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Karen<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Mark Arlen Peterson
<mark_peterson@byu.edu></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Greetings all, <br>
<br>
Concerning Ms. Palmers note:<br>
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If we look at the question of gender balance in Korean Studies -- more broadly
than Korean history -- it looks a little better, well, .... in some ways. It's
certainly more complex. <br>
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First, in regard to history, Martina Deuchler has retired but is still working
and writing. The Korean history positions at Harvard (Kim Sun Joo, as
mentioned) and at UCLA and the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Utah</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> are all held by
UW female PhD. Harvard has given PhD's in history to Susan Shin and Sherry
McCullough as well as Martina Deuchler. Hesung Koh has worked in history, but
I'm not sure what her PhD was in. Law? Legal history? Anthropology? Pae Hyungil
at UC Santa Barbara has a PhD in history/archaeology from Harvard. At at <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Columbia</st1:place></st1:City>, we must cite
ChaHyun Kim-Haboush as a major figure at a major institution.<br>
<br>
If we look at language tea! ching, the opposite imbalance is obvious -- more
females. At AATK meetings (American Assocation of Teachers of Korean) there are
very very few male teachers. Linguistics PhD's go disproportionately to females,
it appears, with major positions at George Washington and UCLA held by women.<br>
<br>
Political Science is really lopsided on the male side. I think there is only
one practicing female PhD in political science. Here there may be grounds for
complaining, but maybe not in history.<br>
<br>
Anthropology has more females, Laurel Kendall, Linda Lewis, and if we include
ethnomusicology, Hillary Finchum at ICC in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">San Francisco</st1:place></st1:City>, there are perhaps more females
in this field than males. ???<br>
<br>
Literature is fairly evenly balanced, isn't it?<br>
<br>
So, Ms. Palmer, there may be an imbalance in Korean history but the wider field
of Korean Studies is closer to the golden mean. At least, that is this
observer's cursory conclusion.....<br>
<br>
with best regards,<br>
Mark Peterson<br>
<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: karen palmer <br>
<KAREN_PALMER01@YAHOO.COM>To: Korean Studies Discussion List <br>
<KOREANSTUDIES@KOREAWEB.WS>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:53:16 -0800 (PST)<br>
Subject: [KS] women ph.d.'s in korean history<br>
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It appears that the field of Korean history in terms of academic positions held
and even in numbers of Ph.D.s granted is heavily male-dominated. Wasn't Kim Sun
Joo the first female Ph.D. to come out of the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Washington</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>,
and isn't that a bit of a late start in encouraging female scholars in this
area? In my opinion, it's a loss to the overall quality and scope of academic
research in history when women's voices are left out. It would be strange to
assume there were no women capable of or interested in a particular subfield of
history while overall women have come to outnumber men in Ph.D.s granted in
humanities and social sciences. Although it involves the study of several
languages, Korean history is n! ot rocket science, and women do not generally
self-deselect in these areas.<br>
<br>
In contrast to the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Washington</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>, which
academic institution has shown a better track record in terms of encouraging
female scholars, and what are the numbers and ratios involved?<br>
<br>
Karen Palmer<br>
(prospective graduate school applicant in korean history)<br>
<br>
caprio <CAPRIO@RIKKYO.NE.JP>wrote:<br>
You should look at Kim Sun Joo's dissertation.<br>
I do not have the title with me but she looked<br>
at the 1812 rebellion and talks about discrimination.<br>
It was completed in 2000 at the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Washington</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>.<br>
<br>
Good Luck,<br>
<br>
Mark Caprio<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Rikkyo</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
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