<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)">
<!--[if !mso]>
<style>
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style>
<![endif]--><o:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="State"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="City" downloadurl="http://www.5iamas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="country-region" downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalamp.com/"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="Street"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="address"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="PlaceType"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="PlaceName" downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalamp.com/"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="place" downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalamp.com/"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="PersonName"/>
<!--[if !mso]>
<style>
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }
</style>
<![endif]-->
<style>
<!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"MS Mincho";
panose-1:2 2 6 9 4 2 5 8 3 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Palatino Linotype";
panose-1:2 4 5 2 5 5 5 3 3 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"\@MS Mincho";
panose-1:2 2 6 9 4 2 5 8 3 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman";}
p.MsoBodyText, li.MsoBodyText, div.MsoBodyText
{mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman";}
span.EmailStyle20
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:Arial;
color:navy;}
@page Section1
{size:595.3pt 841.9pt;
margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}
-->
</style>
</head>
<body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=blue>
<div class=Section1>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think we have to consider linguistic
features of languages when we discuss terms such as ‘fatherland’
and ‘ motherland’. In some languages nouns have a gender depending
on their ending. For example, in Polish (and if I remember correctly the same
holds for Russian), all nouns that end with “a” are feminine. Because
the Polish name for <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Poland</st1:place></st1:country-region>
is ‘Polska’, it automatically becomes feminine and it would be
illogical to refer to it as ‘fatherland’. I think that this also
explains why Russians refer to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Russia</st1:place></st1:country-region>
as ‘motherland’.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I hope this does make sense; I am not a linguist
myself, but this just occurred to me when I was reading Doc Rock’s (?!) message.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Katarzyna<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Palatino Linotype"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'>Katarzyna
J. Cwiertka, PhD</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face="Palatino Linotype"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'>Centre
for Japanese and <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Korean</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Studies</st1:PlaceName></span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font size=2 color=navy
face="Palatino Linotype"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'>Leiden</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font
size=2 color=navy face="Palatino Linotype"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><font size=2
color=navy face="Palatino Linotype"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'>P.O. Box</span></font></st1:Street><font
size=2 color=navy face="Palatino Linotype"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'> 9515</span></font></st1:address><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face="Palatino Linotype"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'>2300
RA Leiden</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face="Palatino Linotype"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'>The
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Netherlands</st1:country-region></st1:place></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face="Palatino Linotype"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'>Tel.:
+31-(0)71-5272599<br>
Fax: +31-(0)71-5272215</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=navy face="Palatino Linotype"><span lang=NL
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'><a
href="http://www.koreaans.leidenuniv.nl/index.php3?m=13&c=42"><span
lang=EN-GB>http://www.koreaans.leidenuniv.nl/index.php3?m=13&c=42</span></a></span></font><font
color=navy><span lang=NL style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1>
</span></font></div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws [mailto:Koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dr. Edward D. Rockstein<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 21, 2005
3:33 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Korean Studies Discussion List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [SPAM-BA] - Re: [KS]
Korean War (other terms) - Bayesian Filter detected spam</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div id=RTEContent>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>But, on the other hand,
it is mother Rus!<br>
<br>
Doc Rock<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Henny Savenije
<webmaster@henny-savenije.pe.kr></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>At 05:02 AM 11/19/2005, you wrote:<br>
<br>
>While I agree that we often think of <st1:country-region w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region>
in <br>
>the "Fatherland" context, I suspect that the <br>
>DPRK is echoing the <st1:place w:st="on">Soviet Union</st1:place>'s
"Great <br>
>Fatherland War" (1941-45) rather than Nazi Germany.<br>
<br>
I guess that would be a typical Anglophile <br>
reaction, since in Dutch it's also Fatherland, <br>
(and not motherland) and I guess the Scandinavian <br>
countries do the same. Germans still speak about <br>
Vaterland in a political sense, for instance für <br>
Fürst und Vaterland, while Heimat is more used in daily life.<br>
<br>
<br>
The French speak about Patrie and Spanisch and <br>
Italians about patria, but I have no idea if they <br>
have the same sentiment against the word fatherland.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Henny (Lee Hae Kang)<br>
-----------------------------<br>
http://www.henny-savenije.pe.kr Portal to all my sites<br>
http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savvenije.pe.kr <br>
(in <st1:PersonName w:st="on">English</st1:PersonName>) Feel free to discover <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Korea</st1:place></st1:country-region> with
Hendrick Hamel (1653-1666)<br>
http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr/indexk2.htm In Korean<br>
http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr/Dutch In Dutch<br>
http://www.vos.henny-savenije.pe.kr Frits Vos <br>
Article about Witsen and Eibokken and his first Korean-Dutch dictionary<br>
http://www.cartography.henny-savenije.pe.kr (in <br>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">English</st1:PersonName>) <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Korea</st1:place></st1:country-region> through Western Cartographic
eyes<br>
http://www.hwasong.henny-savenije.pe.kr Hwasong the fortress in <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Suwon</st1:place></st1:City><br>
http://www.oldKorea.henny-savenije.pe.kr Old <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Korea</st1:place></st1:country-region> in pictures<br>
http://www.british.henny-savenije.pe.kr A British encounter in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Pusan</st1:place></st1:City> (1797)<br>
http://www.genealogy.henny-savenije.pe.kr/ Genealogy<br>
http://www.henny-savenije.pe.kr/bboard Bulletin board for Korean studies<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dr. Edward D. Rockstein <br>
Language Instructor & Team Leader<br>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Language</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Learning</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Center</st1:PlaceType> (LLC) <br>
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">891 Elkridge Landing Road</st1:address></st1:Street>,
Rm 301 <br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Linthicum Heights</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">MD</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">21090</st1:PostalCode></st1:place>
<br>
Office 410-859-5672<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Fax 410-859-5737 <br>
ed4linda@yahoo.com <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoBodyText style='margin-left:36.0pt'><em><i><font size=1 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:blue'>Trust in God,
but tether your camel</span></font></i></em><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>
<hr size=1 width="100%" align=center>
</span></font></div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
href="http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFqODRtdXQ4BF9TAzMyOTc1MDIEX3MDOTY2ODgxNjkEcG9zAzEEc2VjA21haWwtZm9vdGVyBHNsawNmYw--/SIG=110oav78o/**http%3a/farechase.yahoo.com/">Yahoo!
FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>