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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">I once swore I would never get involved in this kind of discussion again, but I am compelled to respond. Hopefully this will be my last posting on the issue.</FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Yes, of course, language is always to be blamed–“shocked,” “arbitrary,” “spam,” “non-issue,” “racism” and “nationalism,” “divorce settlement,” … And there are a lot of non-native speakers of English among us, including yours truly. Even when it is your own language, it is easy to misfire words that really were not meant, especially in an e-mail communication when people are writing like they are talking and do not want to spend too much time composing a neat and coherent text. I appreciate all the efforts to clarify their real intentions, and I thank and respect that.</FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">And yet, two words may be of the essence: “neutral” and “non-interference.” These are touchy words and should be used with care. When the Japanese textbooks justify or even glorify their shameful past, and they dismiss, minimize, belittle or blame their victims for what they did, at least the “neutral” people should understand the truth. The problem is, the written record is often taken as truth, and unless someone protests its validity, how can it be prevented from being taken as a common knowledge and truthful fact? Even worse, the young Japanese would in fact be shortchanged and grow up without the advantage of learning from their past and acting like civilized people in the international arena as far as that part of their history is concerned. The same symbolism holds for the Yasukuni visit by the heads of the Japanese state.</FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Your (Marko’s) “wishful” thinking that the island somehow should belong to both countries shows you are already taking sides, and your assertion that Korean historians have not made an “air-tight” case most probably is shared by many “neutral” parties of the world. The reason why Koreans don’t go to the international court, in my opinion, is exactly because of their suspicion that they would not be fairly judged there, or at least, indeed because they feel they are not prepared to defend themselves legally. And how many Korean judges are in the international tribunal, and how many Japanese?</FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">From my limited knowledge of the history of the controversy surrounding this island, it looks like an unfortunate consequence, perhaps totally artificially made, of a series of coincidences, bad judgments, sloppy handling of the situation, as well as the very organized, I must say impressive, effort by the Japanese in recent history. As Koreans often say themselves, they have only themselves to blame for their past weakness, incompetence, passiveness, or even indifference in thinking and acting for their own interests. However, it does not mean that Koreans don’t have a case. On the contrary--there is a collection of pretty good documentation, in addition to the simple fact that Tokto is closer to Korean territorial boundary than to that of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on">Japan</st1:country-region>
geographically, that it belongs to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Korea</st1:place></st1:country-region>. For this we don’t even need to go back to the time before the Japanese took the island at the time of their colonization of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Korea</st1:country-region></st1:place>. </FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">I think all those who are interested in the topic should visit this California-based site containing “Selected Research on <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Dokdo</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Island</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>” (<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><A href="http://www.geocities.com/mlovmo/"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">http://www.geocities.com/mlovmo/</SPAN></A>). It might be useful to revisit in that context the contention of “non-interference” and “neutrality” by learning about</SPAN> “</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">The United States' Involvement with <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Dokdo</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">
Island</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> (Liancourt Rocks): A Timeline of the Occupation and Korean War Era</SPAN> (</FONT><A href="http://www.geocities.com/mlovmo/page9.html"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT face="Times New Roman">http://www.geocities.com/mlovmo/page9.html</FONT></SPAN></A><FONT face="Times New Roman">),” which is one of the subsections of the site. </FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">As for a clear example of Tokto’s territorial affiliation, you may look at this 1936 map <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">by the Japanese Army General Staff Office</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> (</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><A href="http://www.geocities.com/mlovmo/page27.html"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">http://www.geocities.com/mlovmo/page27.html</SPAN></A>) among many other things given there:</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: JA"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-outline-level: 3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: JA; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><FONT face="Times New Roman">“This map shows Ullungdo and its appended island, Dokdo. Published by the Japanese Army General Staff Office in March 1936, it places Dokdo and Ullungdo in the region of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Korea</st1:place></st1:country-region>. It is highly likely that SCAP GHQ used maps like these when they decided to exclude Dokdo from the Japanese territorial sphere. These maps are a reminder of the commonly accepted view of Dokdo´s sovereignty (in both <st1:country-region w:st="on">Korea</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region>) prior to the late 1940s and early 1950s.”</FONT></SPAN></P>
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I, too, have been saying that Koreans appear insecure when they show so much emotion whenever the Tokto issue is reopened and that they should act like true, legitimate owners. However, I am more sympathetic to them than just judgmental, compared to the other “neutral” third party, I guess. Suppose someone took your purse away at gunpoint, and when you finally got it back, the robber says it is his/hers because at one point he/she possessed it having stolen it “fair and square.” In the meantime, he or she might have even bought dresses and shoes to match it, and a lot of witnesses saw him/her carrying it. He may even have insured it, clearly showing who the owner of the purse is. This sort of scenario has happened in many parts of the world in human history, where the natives had collective ownership of the land, and the chiefs either gave it away for a penny or gave it up at knife points. In such a case, who would have more legal clout? Who would be screaming and who wo
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Unfortunately for Marko and many others, this case is not a matter of dividing common property at an "amicable" divorce court, but rather one of child custody, if ever the child belonged to both parents—you just can’t cut a child into half and hope both parties will be happy, merely because the share was fare. What we need here is the Judgment of Solomon!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Going back to what really should be a “non-issue,” I want to add that I, too, love and respect <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Japan</st1:country-region></st1:place>, Japanese people and culture. Linguistically, culturally, and perhaps even racially I find them closer to Koreans than any others. In fact some of my best friends, some of whom go back to my college days, are Japanese. And I sincerely believe that the two countries would be happier and more prosperous by getting along with each other. </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">
However, this is not a case of blind love. I am not going to say everything they do is perfect or right just because I love them. At the same time, if I experience some problem with the Japanese involving a particular issue, I am not condemning the nation in everything else, too. So, I would think even my Japanese friends would not take my taking “sides” in this case as a sign of betrayal. I hope yours won’t, either, if ever you should recognize that Tokto indeed belongs to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Korea</st1:country-region></st1:place>.</FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">All best,<BR>Young-Key</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman">Young-Key Kim-Renaud, Chair <BR>Department of East Asian Languages and Literatures <BR>Professor of Korean Language and Culture and International Affairs <BR>The George Washington University <BR>801 22nd Street, N.W. (Academic Center, Rome Hall 469) <BR>Washington, DC 20052 <BR>E-mail: kimrenau@gwu.edu <BR><A href="http://home.gwu.edu/~kimrenau">http://home.gwu.edu/~kimrenau</A>, </FONT></o:p><o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman"><BR><A href="http://myprofile.cos.com/kimreny76">http://myprofile.cos.com/kimreny76</A> <BR>Tel: (O) 202-994-7107 <BR>Fax: (O) 202-994-1512 </FONT></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-language: JA">Dear list members,<BR><BR>As for my previous message, my decision to use "non-issue" may have been misguided or slightly misunderstood. I was only trying to relay my own personal opinion about this whole matter. After all, English is only my third language. My apologies if I unintentionally offended anyone. Having said all that, Dokdo-Takeshima question is a very important issue to some people and to the South Korean government. I must say that personally I do not see anything wrong with the suggested name change. Liancourt Rocks is neutral term and I suppose, rather widely used name for the islets. Besides, we have to remember that no matter what we call it, in Korean maps it will still be Dokdo and in Japanese maps Takeshima.<BR><BR>
What I find interesting is that the Korean side seems to be a lot more vociferous than the Japanese side. Why is that? Should not it be the other way? <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Korea</st1:place></st1:country-region> has held the islets since 1953, has people living there, has stationed a group of police officers on the islets, and if I am not mistaken, provides cell phone and Internet services for visitors etc. After all this and it still seems to me that <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Korea</st1:place></st1:country-region> is quite insecure of its possession.<BR><BR>The latest news tell us that <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Korea</st1:place></st1:country-region> will replace the police officers stationed on the islets with marines. ROK will also send two civil servants there as well. All this because <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region>
claims? I do not think that ROK has any reason to risk escalating this dispute any further. Dokdo is and has been in Korean hands, by might and/or by right, for the last 55 years. I do not see that <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region> will try to contest this issue with legal or military action anytime soon.<BR> <BR>Mr. Burgeson wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-language: JA">[...] South Koreans should make sure that their historians have made an air-tight case for their claim to Dokto, because from what I have read so far, they really haven't.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-language: JA"><BR>I am with Mr. Burgeson in this matter. I do not claim to be an expert on this issue, but from what I see the Japanese claim has more merit than the Korean one. Furthermore, emotional demonstrations, burning of Japanese flags, acts of violence against animals and self-mutilation (cutting off fingers, self-immolation, trying to commit harakiri) do not solve anything. These acts only give <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Korea</st1:place></st1:country-region> and Koreans a bad name abroad.<BR><BR>As for how to solve this problem, I do have one idea. (Well, actually two, if <st1:country-region w:st="on">Korea</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region>
could agree to divide the islets between themselves.) I hope that both parties would agree to take this issue into the <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">International Court</st1:address></st1:Street> or UN before something irrevocable happens. Naturally both governments would have to follow the court's ruling. Maybe a joint custody could come into question like in some divorce cases? At least it might bring these two neighbors closer and help to heal some other issues of the past. Is this too wishful thinking?<BR><BR><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Marko Rajakko</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Finland</st1:country-region></st1:place></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-language: JA"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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I do, however, object to the insinuation that I merely looked at someone's surname and that was enough for me to decide to call them "nationalistic." I've been a member of this List for many years and rarely if ever have I previously made such a charge, and certainly never in such a vulgar, shallow manner. To be clear: It is official US policy and has been for decades to be neutral in the Dokdo-Takeshima territorial dispute; thus, calling the adoption of a neutral name for those islets "arbitary" is certainly nationalistic because it suggests that official US policy itself is somehow illegitimate, i.e., by failing to fall in line with South Korean claims to the islets.<BR><BR>Perhaps my previous argument was overly academic in the sense that in truth, it does not bother me too much if South Korean interest groups want to lobby in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>
for Dokto. What does irritate me greatly, however, is the insistance by South Korean nationalists that <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region> has no right to state its own position on Dokdo-Takeshima in its own textbooks. Certainly that is an internal matter -- a matter of one nation's "sovereignty" -- and it is for <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region> to decide if it is appropriate to do so or not. So let's just say that I'll agree that Hana Kim is welcome in my book to lobby for Dokdo all she wants, in the <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region> or anywhere else, if she in turn is willing to recognize <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Japan</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s right to teach its own views on Dokto in its own schools. Deal?<BR><BR>
Perhaps I am a little touchy on this subject because just several hundred meters from my home here in Seoul, South Korean nationalists are butchering pheasants in front of the Japanese Embassy, and as a fan of Japan, Japanese people and Japanese culture, this offends me very much.<BR><BR>Rather than focusing so much on the propaganda front, South Koreans should make sure that their historians have made an air-tight case for their claim to Dokto, because from what I have read so far, they really haven't.<BR><BR>--Scott<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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