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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial id="role_document"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello Aidan and all! </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>First, thank you all for taking the time
to write me! </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes I did accidentally miss-spell
Seredin. My apology for the trouble. </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I read the Wikipedia page for Moellendorf.
Thanks for the info. </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m acquainted with Mr. Ledyard and Robert
Koehler. </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As I mentioned, it’s a matter of fitting
the small pieces together, but first the peaces have to be found! I’m considering
starting a Google group for intrested parties researching my great-grandfather,
since this is my primary focus. I was wondering if any of you be interested in
joining? </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>George </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>PS Aidan, I was in </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>London</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> and </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Scot</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>la</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>nd</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> in March of ’08. Absolutely
loved the time there! </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:black'> </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws [mailto:koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Afostercarter@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, February 20, 2010
3:47 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws;
ansonjae@sogang.ac.kr; sangok@u.washington.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> marmotshole@gmail.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [KS] Afanasii - or is
it Aleksey? - Ivanovich SerEdin-Sabatin</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>Dear George, Anthony, Clark and all,</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>Fascinating stuff. But I fear some of you seem at</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>cross purposes, owing to varied confusionism:</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>1. The mis-spelling to which Bro Anthony refers is </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>surely of the gentleman's <strong><b><font face="Book Antiqua"><span
style='font-family:"Book Antiqua"'>surname</span></font></b></strong>, not the
first name.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>All searches suggest the first part should be <strong><b><font
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua"'>Seredin</span></font></b></strong>,</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>not Ser<u>i</u>din as George wrote.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>2. Whereas Afanasii /Afanasy/Afanasij is simply</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>a choice of romanizations of the Russian double vowel </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font color=black face="Book Antiqua"><span
style='font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:black'><span style='WIDOWS: 2;
ORPHANS: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'>ий.</span></span></font></span></p>
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<div><span style='WIDOWS: 2;ORPHANS: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:
0px'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=apple-style-span><font
size=4 color=black face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:black'>Thus one can say Georgii or Georgy. The
strange-looking</span></span></font></span></p>
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<div><span style='WIDOWS: 2;ORPHANS: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:
0px'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=apple-style-span><font
size=4 color=black face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:black'>-ij variant is </span><span
style='WIDOWS: 2;ORPHANS: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'>more unusual nowadays, I think.</span></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>3. Similarly, the reason why George can't find "Paul </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>Moellendorf" on Google is because that is not how his</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>name is spelled. You are missing both the final F,</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>and the Von. Other variations include his often used</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>middle name Georg, and whether to render the German</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>letter O with umlaut </span><span style='WIDOWS: 2;
ORPHANS: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'></font><em><b><i><font
color=black face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black;font-weight:bold;font-style:normal'>ö </span></span></font></i></b></em><font
size=4 color=black face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:black'>in English as OE or simply O.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>Varying your search spellings may thus yield different </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>and more results. For starters, here's PGvM's Wikipedia entry</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>(complete with a truly splendid photograph):</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Georg_von_Möllendorff">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Georg_von_Möllendorff</a></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>4. Finally, back to George's great-grandfather. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>My googling throws up quite a few references where </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>Seredin-Sabatin's first name is given as </span><span
style='WIDOWS: 2;ORPHANS: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'></font><strong><b><font
size=4 color=black face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:black'>Aleksey;</span></font></b></strong><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=4 color=black face="Book Antiqua"><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:black'> in fact more </span></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=apple-style-span><font
size=4 color=black face="Book Antiqua"><span style='WIDOWS: 2;ORPHANS: 2;
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:black'>than those who call him Afanasy, etc.
Presumably this is </span></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=apple-style-span><font
size=4 color=black face="Book Antiqua"><span style='WIDOWS: 2;ORPHANS: 2;
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Book Antiqua";color:black'>one and the same person? If so, which
forename is correct?</span></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>Here are some links. The JoongAng Ilbo has Afanasij:</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'><a
href="http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2914115"><font
size=3><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2914115</span></font></a></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'><a
href="http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2906696"><font
size=3><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2906696</span></font></a></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>Most others go for Aleksey - including Gari Ledyard in these</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>pages, way back in 1995: <a
href="http://koreaweb.ws/ks/ksr/queenmin.txt"><font size=3><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>http://koreaweb.ws/ks/ksr/queenmin.txt</span></font></a></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>The Marmot (Robert Koehler) also mentions him a fair bit, eg</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'><a
href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/23/jeongdong-the-coming-of-the-west/"><font
size=3><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/04/23/jeongdong-the-coming-of-the-west/</span></font></a></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'><a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/20/deoksugung-palace-2/"><font
size=3><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/08/20/deoksugung-palace-2/</span></font></a></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>I hope these clarifications are helpful.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>Good luck in your researches. Just remember to</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>check all spellings, and google all possible variants!</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>Cheers</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=black
face="Book Antiqua"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua";
color:black'>Aidan FC</span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hello Clark,<br>
<br>
Thank your for your reply.<br>
<br>
I found "Living Dangerously in Korea" on Amazon. If I
understand correctly,<br>
the review of the book indicates that the book looks at Korea from 1900 to<br>
1950. My great-grandfather was there from about 1886 to 1905. So it
seems<br>
that that book misses the mark a bit. <br>
<br>
As for Paul Moellendorf; Google seems to have no hits - that must be a<br>
first! <br>
<br>
Over the last 12 months or so I've been in contact with a number of people<br>
in Korea and Russia who are researching Afanasii, and this has renewed my<br>
interest. I've started a Wikipedia page about him and am writing a<br>
journal/book about my ancestors. There are a number of family stories
about<br>
my ancestors, but there are "holes" in the stories. For example
we know<br>
that Afanasii attended some kind of Naval college in St. Petersburg, but, so<br>
far, there is no mention of him in such Russian archives. <br>
<br>
I find that researching my ancestors to be very interesting. Like an<br>
"Easter egg hunt". As I mentioned, I am in communication
with a number of<br>
scalars (besides surfing the web) and they each have a peace of the puzzle,<br>
it's just a matter of collecting all the peaces. I am looking for other<br>
individuals with an interest in my Great-grandfather so that we can<br>
"compleat the puzzle". If you feel have a like interest in this
then I<br>
would be grateful if you could help me.<br>
<br>
Sincerely, George <br>
<br>
Ps, I live about 10 miles north of San Francisco.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws<br>
[mailto:koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws] On Behalf Of Clark W Sorensen<br>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:39 PM<br>
To: Korean Studies Discussion List<br>
Subject: Re: [KS] Afanasii Ivanovich Seridin-Sabatin<br>
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George,<br>
<br>
The book that comes to mind is Donald Clark's "Living Dangerously in
Korea"<br>
that has a whole chapter on the Russians living in Korea. I'm not sure he<br>
goes back as far as King Kojong's reign, but it would be a start. There are<br>
undoubtely Russian language sources on this. Maybe you could find<br>
information in the biography of Paul Moellendorf (I don't have the exact<br>
reference, but I've seen a title). Moellendorf was an ethnic German citizen<br>
of the Russian Empire who worked for King Kojong in the 1880s.<br>
<br>
Clark W. Sorensen, Chair<br>
Korean Studies Program<br>
University of Washington<br>
<br>
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, George Dorian wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> I am researching my great-grandfather, Afanasii Ivanovich Seridin-Sabatin.<br>
> He was an architect working (in part) for the king of Korea about 100<br>
years<br>
> ago. I have some information about him, but I'm always looking for
more.<br>
> I'm also looking for confirmation of information and details for<br>
information<br>
> that I have. Any help is appreciated.<br>
><br>
> I'd also be happy to share information that I have with intrested parties.<br>
><br>
> Thanks, George Dorian<br>
><br>
><br>
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font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hello Brother Anthony,<br>
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Thanks you for your reply!<br>
<br>
As for the spelling of my great-grandfather: This is a bit of a mystery.
My<br>
family records show his name spelled Afanasii. This is the way it's
spelled<br>
in Afanasii's son's, Peter's, autobiography. However, the original was<br>
written in Russian and the translation spells it Afanasii, so maybe the<br>
translation was wrong. In other places I've see it spelled Afanasy.
Yours<br>
is the first time I've see it spelled Afanasij. So, as I said, a bit of a<br>
mystery. For the moment I'm using the spelling Afanasii because that's
the<br>
first I knew. <br>
<br>
Thank you for the link to the article, however I found it some days ago.<br>
<br>
Regarding the assassination of Queen Min: Have you seen Afanasii's<br>
testimony of those events? Here is a link to it:<br>
http://koreaweb.ws/ks/ksr/queenmin.txt<br>
<br>
<br>
Over the last 12 months or so I've been in contact with a number of people<br>
in Korea and Russia who are researching Afanasii, and this has renewed my<br>
interest. I've started a Wikipedia page about him and am writing a<br>
journal/book about my ancestors. There are a number of family stories
about<br>
my ancestors, but there are "holes" in the stories. For example
we know<br>
that Afanasii attended some kind of Naval college in St. Petersburg, but, so<br>
far, there is no mention of him in such Russian archives. <br>
<br>
I find that researching my ancestors to be very interesting. Like an<br>
"Easter egg hunt". As I mentioned, I am in communication
with a number of<br>
scalars (besides surfing the web) and they each have a peace of the puzzle,<br>
it's just a matter of collecting all the peaces. I am looking for other<br>
individuals with an interest in my Great-grandfather so that we can<br>
"compleat the puzzle". If you feel that you are category then I
would be<br>
grateful if you could help me.<br>
<br>
Sincerely, George <br>
<br>
Ps, I live about 10 miles north of San Francisco.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws<br>
[mailto:koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws] On Behalf Of Brother Anthony<br>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:29 PM<br>
To: Korean Studies Discussion List<br>
Subject: Re: [KS] Afanasii Ivanovich Seridin-Sabatin<br>
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I hope that the way you spell your grandfather's name in your message<br>
(Seridin-Sabatin) is a one-off error? I can find a lot of references to him<br>
(116) doing a Google search with the spelling Afanasij Ivanovich
Seredin<br>
Sabatin (375 if you omit the first name which has various spellings),<br>
including this article in the "JoongAng Daily" from last December:<br>
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2914115 which reminds<br>
us that he was probably the only Western witness present at the murder of<br>
the Empress Myeongseong. It would certainly be good to know if there are<br>
longer published studies of his life and his Korean buildings. Did he leave<br>
any diaries etc?<br>
<br>
Brother Anthony<br>
Sogang University, Korea<br>
http://hompi.sogang.ac.kr/anthony/<br>
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