Hi,<br><div class="gmail_quote"><br>Thanks to Kwang On Yoo for starting yet another fascinating thread.<br><br>This topic brought to mind some comments by a polyglot American<br>lawyer-banker who also spoke faultless Japanese and was helping me<br>
get some insight into the Japanese and Korean capital market <br>
regulations.<br><br>During one of the breaks, with his and my own interest in languages<br>playing a part, this very topic came up: Japanese descended from Korean.<br><br>He was puzzled and brought up the point, knowing about the Korean's<br>
bitterness over its colonial past and the extreme Korean sensitivity about<br>the role of Japanese Language in Korean the rather inconvenient logical <br>consequences that would follow.<br><br>His point was: "Doesn't the Korean descent of the Japanese Imperial<br>
family give legitimacy to the Japanese imperial/colonial claim on Korea and<br>strengthen justification for colonization ?" And along the same line:<br>"If Japanese is descended from Korean, then Japanese is "Korean"<br>
and there should be little sensitivity over adopting Japanese as "form<br>of Korean. Ergo, no justification for SENSITIVITY."<br><br>Now, there was much tongue in cheek in his remarks, but they did give <br>me pause.<br>
<br>Regards,<br>
<br>Joobai Lee<br><br>5/13/2011<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Kwang On Yoo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lovehankook@gmail.com" target="_blank">lovehankook@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hello,<br><br>For the Origin of the Founders of Japan, please read following 1975 essay by Dr. Gari Ledyard.<br>
<br><br>Galloping along with the Horseriders: Looking for the Founders of Japan<br>Author(s): Gari Ledyard<br>
Source: Journal of Japanese Studies, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Spring, 1975), pp. 217-254<br>Published by: The Society for Japanese Studies<br>
Stable URL: <a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/132125" target="_blank">http://www.jstor.org/stable/132125</a><br><br><br>Regards,<br><font color="#888888"><br>Kwang-On Yoo</font><div><div></div><div><br><br>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Werner Sasse <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:werner_sasse@hotmail.com" target="_blank">werner_sasse@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Thanks for the link.<br>
Just one note before I start reading the article:<br> "new light on the <i>origin of the Japanese people,</i> suggesting that <i>their language</i> is descended from that of the rice-growing farmers who arrived in <a title="More news and information about Japan." href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/japan/index.html?inline=nyt-geo" target="_blank">Japan</a> from the Korean Peninsula," (italics mine). We must be careful to distinguish between the origin of a LANGUAGE and the origin of the PEOPLE....<br>
Best, Werner Sasse<br><br>
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Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 21:37:16 -0500<br>From: <a href="mailto:lovehankook@gmail.com" target="_blank">lovehankook@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws" target="_blank">koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws</a><br>
Subject: [KS] Japanese language is descended from that of the rice-growing farmers who arrived in Japan from the Korean Peninsula, The New York Times, May 4, 2011<div><div></div><div><br><br>Hello,<br><br>If I may, I would like to share following article with [KS] subscribers. <br>
<br><br>"The finding sheds new light on the origin of the Japanese people, suggesting that their language is descended from that of the rice-growing farmers who arrived in <a title="More news and information about Japan." href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/japan/index.html?inline=nyt-geo" target="_blank">Japan</a> from the Korean Peninsula,"<br>
<br>"John B. Whitman, an expert on Japanese linguistics who works at the National Institute for Japanese Language and Linguistics, in Tokyo, and at Cornell University, called the new finding solid and reasonable.” <br>
<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/04/world/asia/04language.html?_r=4" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/04/world/asia/04language.html?_r=4</a><br><br><br>Regards,<br><br>Kwang-On Yoo<br><br><br> </div>
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