<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Here's an interview with Paul White:</div><div><br></div><div><br><a href="http://www.nknews.org/2012/04/the-british-voice-of-kim-il-sung/">http://www.nknews.org/2012/04/the-british-voice-of-kim-il-sung/</a><br><div><br></div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div><br>On May 21, 2012, at 5:18 AM, <a href="mailto:jimhoare64@aol.co.uk">jimhoare64@aol.co.uk</a> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font color="black" size="2" face="arial"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="2">I agree that KCNA did not seem to use polishers, The FLPH laid off the </font>remaining<font size="2"> foreign staff while we were there in 2001-02 and thereafter seemed to relay on Koreans - no doubt this explains the odd language.</font></font>
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">But even when they did employ foreign staff, the Korean staff would often override what the native speakers had suggested.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">On a slightly different note, what use would one make of photographs of such people if one had them? </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Jim Hoare<br>
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CC: jsburgeson <<a href="mailto:jsburgeson@yahoo.com">jsburgeson@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Sent: Sun, 20 May 2012 18:34<br>
Subject: Re: [KS] Foreign copy-editors and polishers in Pyongyang<br>
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<div><font size="4">Dear friends and colleagues,</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">Scott raises the question of native speakers of English
(etc)</font></div>
<div><font size="4">as copy-editors - also known as 'polishers' - in North
Korea.</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">Having in the past recruited at least two people for such
roles</font></div>
<div><font size="4">- Michael Harrold, and the late Andrew Holloway <a target="_blank" href="http://www.aidanfc.net/a_year_in_pyongyang.html">http://www.aidanfc.net/a_year_in_pyongyang.html</a></font></div>
<div><font size="4">- this is a topic about which I'm curious, but not
up-to-date.</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">Michael, Andrew and others were hired by the DPRK</font></div>
<div><font size="4">Foreign Languages </font><font size="4">Publishing House (FLPH).
The texts</font></div>
<div><font size="4">they worked on were mostly books, as best I
recall.</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">By contrast, I've never heard of KCNA using
foreigners.</font></div>
<div><font size="4">My guess would be that they don't, given some
stilted</font></div>
<div><font size="4">expressions and the odd mistake.</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">For example, surely if a native English speaker
were</font></div>
<div><font size="4">involved they would have recommended a different
word</font></div>
<div><font size="4">- be it technical or colloquial - for "bottom hole" in
the </font></div>
<div><font size="4">third sentence of the </font><font size="4">caption to the
cartoon below.</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">There are other linguistic infelicities here as
well,</font></div>
<div><font size="4">not least the title. Either tear apart or tear to
pieces,</font></div>
<div><font size="4">but not tear apart to pieces.</font></div>
<div><font size="4"></font> </div>
<div><font size="4">(</font><font size="4">On the substance: In my article I likened
doing the research</font></div>
<div><font size="4">for this to wading through sewage. You can see
why.)</font></div>
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<div><font size="4">- But back to polishers. FLPH still uses at least one, but he
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<div><font size="4">lives in Beijing. See an interesting interview with
Paul White</font></div>
<div><font size="4">at Tad Farrell's ever more indispensable
NKNews:</font></div>
<div><a target="_blank" href="http://www.nknews.org/2012/04/the-british-voice-of-kim-il-sung/"><font size="3">http://www.nknews.org/2012/04/the-british-voice-of-kim-il-sung/</font></a></div>
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<div><font size="4">Kind regards</font></div>
<div><font size="4">Aidan FC</font></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Cambria; COLOR: black" lang="EN-GB"><font size="3">Aidan
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<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Cambria; COLOR: black" lang="EN-GB">Honorary Senior Research
Fellow in Sociology & Modern Korea, Leeds University, UK</span></i><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Cambria; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-US"></span></font></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"><em><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Cambria; COLOR: black" lang="EN-GB">E</span></em><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Cambria; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-style: italic" lang="EN-GB">: <a title="mailto:afostercarter@aol.com" href="mailto:afostercarter@aol.com">afostercarter@aol.com</a><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><a title="mailto:afostercarter@yahoo.com" href="mailto:afostercarter@yahoo.com">afostercarter@yahoo.com</a><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><em><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Cambria">W</span></em>: <a title="http://www.aidanfc.net/" target="_blank" href="http://www.aidanfc.net/">www.aidanfc.net</a><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></font></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Cambria; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-style: italic" lang="EN-GB"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span></span></font> </div>
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<div><font size="4">From <a target="_blank" href="http://www.kcna.kp/2mb/eindex.html">http://www.kcna.kp/2mb/eindex.html</a> (cartoon
5)</font></div>
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<div><img style="CURSOR: pointer" src="http://www.kcna.kp/2mb/resource/images/05.jpg" width="450"><br>
<center><b><font face="Cambria">Tear Apart Lee Myung Bak to
Pieces</font></b></center><br>
<font face="Cambria">The dirty hairy body of
rat-like Myung Bak is being stabbed with bayonets. One is right in his neck and
the heart has already burst open. Blood is flowing out of its filthy bottom
hole. This is not too much to Lee as he committed only sordid acts of flunkeyism
and treachery. And this is not all. It is the strong will and pledge of the army
and people of the DPRK to tear apart Lee Myung Bak to
pieces</font>.</div>
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<div>In a message dated 5/20/2012 11:27:17 GMT Daylight Time,
<a href="mailto:jsburgeson@yahoo.com">jsburgeson@yahoo.com</a> writes:</div>
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<td valign="top">Thanks for the great article, Aiden! Did you have to put
bandaids on your eye-balls after reading so much slashing, violent
fulmination?
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<div>Any chance you can dig up photos of some of the foreign devils who
copy-edited this stuff in English? One wonders if they have PTSD by now;
hopefully they were sharp enough to ask in advance to be paid in
soju!</div>
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--- On <b>Fri, 5/18/12, Aidan Foster-Carter
<i><<a href="mailto:afostercarter@aol.com">afostercarter@aol.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
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From:
Aidan Foster-Carter <<a href="mailto:afostercarter@aol.com">afostercarter@aol.com</a>><br>
Subject: [KS] (no
subject)<br>
To: <a href="mailto:Koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws">Koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws</a><br>
Date: Friday, May 18,
2012, 9:56 AM<br>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">Dear friends and colleagues,</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4"></font> </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">Just to let you know that the new issue of <em>Comparative
Connections</em></font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">- the thrice-yearly online journal published by Pacific
Forum-CSIS -</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">includes what I think is the first full account and detailed
analysis</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">in English of </font><font size="4">North
Korea's ongoing bloodthirsty fulminations</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">against </font><font size="4">South Korea and especially its
President, Lee Myung-bak.</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4"></font> </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">
<div><font size="4">In over 40 years of following North Korea, I've read
tons of rich</font></div>
<div><font size="4">DPRK invective - but never anything as bizarre and
nasty as this.</font></div>
</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">(They don't much care for Park Geun-hye, either; for all
that she</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">dined with Kim Jong-il in Pyongyang less than a decade
ago.)</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4"></font> </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">In case of interest, this article is freely available to all
at</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><a style="COLOR: blue; CURSOR: pointer" title="http://csis.org/files/publication/1201qnk_sk.pdf" target="_blank" href="http://csis.org/files/publication/1201qnk_sk.pdf" rel="nofollow"><font size="4">http://csis.org/files/publication/1201qnk_sk.pdf</font></a></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">The full issue, which as ever also has three further articles
on Korea</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">covering the two Koreas' relations with the US, China
and Japan,</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">can be accessed at </font><a style="COLOR: blue; CURSOR: pointer" title="http://csis.org/program/comparative-connections" target="_blank" href="http://csis.org/program/comparative-connections" rel="nofollow"><font size="4">http://csis.org/program/comparative-connections</font></a></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">All good wishes</font></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'; FONT-SIZE: large"><font size="4">Aidan FC</font></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="yiv1907971737MsoNormal"><font size="3"><i><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Cambria" lang="EN-GB">Honorary
Senior Research Fellow in Sociology & Modern Korea, Leeds
University, UK</span></i><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Cambria"></span></font></div>
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