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such and such a place is ‘closed for renovation’ does not necessarily
mean that it is. It may mean that you did not ask to see ion your original
itinery or that somebody more important is visiting. Both the Central History
Museum, which is as Don Kirk describes it, and the Art Gallery were open when I
lived in Pyongyang 2001-2 but that did not mean that one could always visit
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>BJ’s list appears to imply that
the Pueblo was moved back to Wonsan in 2002. I do not think it was. It
disappeared from its Taedong River moorings just before US Assistant Secretary
of State James Kelly visited, but it was back soon after he left and before I
left on 15 October.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws [mailto:koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ruediger Frank<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 24 September 2012 09:50<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Korean Studies Discussion List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [KS] Answers about
Pyongyang</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dear all,<br>
I would add that the history museum in Hamhùng (located in a building that the
East Germans helped erecting in the 1950s; with its yellow glazed wall tiles it
resembles the simultaneously built Stalin Allee in Berlin) feels like a
miniature copy of the history museum in PY. In other words, what we see there
is not just a museum but the official version of history. At least visitiors
are allowed to take photos there, unlike in the Party Foundation Museum or in
the Fine Arts Gallery (they have a few really nice Kim Hongdo's there). <br>
As for the coffee shop, it is called "Ryòn'gwang Ch'ajip"; in English
it is referred to as "Viennese Coffee House". It is part of a
franchise called Sacher's Kaffee (founded 1929 in Vienna) and is run by a
German who lives a few blocks away from me in Vienna's 19th district. I first
met the gentleman at a trade fair in PY in 2010 and never thought he would be
able to get the project off the ground, but he did although he had to struggle
over the smallest things. The prices are hefty, yet one should consider the
prime location and the fact that everything except labor is imported. I had my
last melange there two weeks ago and can confirm that the quality is good. But
the competition doesn't sleep, with dozens of new siktang and sangjòm
(previously called pongsa sent'o; a combination of shop, restaurant, and sauna)
seemingly having emerged in the past few months alone. PY is booming!<br>
Best,<br>
Rudiger Frank<br>
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on Montag, 24. September 2012 at 08:29 you wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>There may be some misunderstanding here. The Korean
History Museum is now on Kim Il Sung Square, filling almost one entire
side. I've been told on at least two visits that's what it is and was taken
on a walk-through in July. It does not cover the Korean War and is not much
about revolutionary struggle. Exhibits begin with archeological remains,
birth of Tangun (of course!) and move through the millennia. At least
that's what I saw when I visited for an hour or so, with minder, in July. I
would have liked to have stayed longer, but that's how guided tours are.
(Speaking of western-style resfaurants, a coffee shop on the corner almost
next to the museum, nearest the river, offers Austrian -- or anyway
European -- coffee and cake at Seoul-coffee-shop prices.)<br>
Don Kirk<br>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sun, 9/23/12, BJ <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><joinau@chollian.net></span></i></span></b> wrote:<br>
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From: BJ <joinau@chollian.net><br>
Subject: [KS] Answers about Pyongyang<br>
To: "'Korean Studies Discussion List'"
<koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws><br>
Date: Sunday, September 23, 2012, 12:22 PM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear </span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>List
members,<br>
</span></font> <br>
I’d like once again to thank you all for your many answers to my
questions about <font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Pyongyang. <br>
</span></font>Since they came in many posts, sometimes in private messages and
could be of interest for some members, I have listed them below.<font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font>Please note that these informations are mostly indicative and are
often hypothetical. Just pieces of a puzzle…<font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'> <br>
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face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=4
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Questions about </span></font><font
size=4 face=Arial><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Pyongyang</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font> <font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font> <font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font>1.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Korean
Central History Museum : it used to be on Moran Hill before 1977 (it is said to
have opened there in 1945). Where was it located ? </span></font><font
face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> Called “State Museum of
History”, it was located on Moral Hill close to Ulmil Pavillion up to
1977. <br>
</span></font>2.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>It was
closed for renovation until recently. Has it reopened? </span></font><font
face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> Yes – date of reopening
unknown (was it really closed for renovation? That’s what I had been told
in 2009). <br>
</span></font>3.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Korean
Revolution Museum : before being behind the Grand Monument of Mansudae (1972),
where was it located? It was supposed to be founded in 1948 under the name of
Central State Museum of the Liberation Fight (I translate from French). </span></font><font
face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> The National Central Museum
of the Liberation Struggle was set up on August 1, 1948. It was renamed the
Korean Revolution Museum in January 1961 and placed on Kim Il Sung Square. (It
is not sure where it was located before that). <br>
</span></font>4.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>The Korea
Art Gallery had been closed for “renovations” for years. When has
it reopened? (If it has). Was it opened first in 1954 or 1960? </span></font><font
face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> It reopened after renovations
in 2010. <br>
</span></font>5.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Victorious
Fatherland Liberation War Museum : it is said to have opened initially in
August 1953, but before being rebuilt in its actual location in 1974, where was
it located? </span></font><font face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:
Wingdings'>è</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> It
was located on Haebangsan, in what is now the Party area. <br>
</span></font>6.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Chris
Springer says that the Three-Revolutions Exhibition opened in 1993 (I have 1992
in another source…), on the site of a former “exhibition”.
Does anybody know what kind of exhibition it was ? </span></font><font
face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> The former exhibition was the
"Exhibition of Achievements of Socialist Construction." <br>
</span></font>7.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Was the
USS Pueblo moved from Wonsan to Pyongyang in 1999? (I found different
dates). </span></font><font face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> Moved from Wonsan in 1999,
moved back temporarily in 2002, and then back again to Pyongyang. <br>
</span></font>8.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Does
anybody know where are located the fast food restaurant, the new Italian
restaurant and the micro-brewery? </span></font><font face=Wingdings><span
style='font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'> There are two "fast food" restaurants
-- though there are five known establishments in Pyongyang in which you can get
a hamburger (if you count Air Koryo). There are also two Italian restaurants.
There at least 5 different beer breweries. <br>
</span></font>9.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Does
anybody know the date of construction of Mansudae Art Studio? And why it was
named this way despite the fact that it is not in Mansudae area? </span></font><font
face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> Created in 1959; location
unknown. “Their signature project is the Mansudae Grand Monument,
the huge statue of Kim Il Sung” (C. Springer) : the reason for the name?
(although the Grand Monument was opened in 1972…) <br>
</span></font>10.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>When was the Kim Il Sung Stadium
first built (before the extensions and renovations of the 1970’s and
1980’s, when it was still called the Moranbong Stadium)? </span></font><font
face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> rebuilt in 1954, on a previous
sports field. <br>
</span></font>11.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>From when the site of Anhak palace
in Taesong area has been “discovered” and opened to the
public? </span></font><font face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> excavations took place under
KIS. Apparently not opened to the public. <br>
</span></font>12.<font size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>When did the so-called mausoleum or
tomb of Tangun open to the public: 1993 or 1994? </span></font><font
face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings'>è</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> 11th October 1994. <br>
</span></font> <font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><u>New reference:</u><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:
Arial'> <br>
</span></font>Roger Mateos Miret with Jelena Prokopljevic: Corea del Norte,
Utopía de hormigón. Arquitectura y urbanismo al servicio de una
ideología. <font size=1><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Brenes, Spain 2012
(Munoz Moya Editores). (thanks to Prof. Dege).</span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>For information,
since I didn’t explain at first the reason of my questions:</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I have just worked on
a diachronic reading of the imaginary of Pyongyang's urban planning and the way
the ideology and the regime’s mythology are staged in the city itself
(what I call a “topo-mythanalysis“). It was the first part of a
research about the regimes of visibility in cities (comparison
Pyongyang-Seoul). The article about the topo-mythanalysis has been written and
translated, it will be presented at the World Conference of Korean Studies in
Seoul this week. My approach follows a cultural anthropology methodology
(Durand). The article has been published in French in the journal <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>Croisements</span></i> (April 2012) and will
hopefully be published next year in English.</span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Yours,</span></font><font
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