<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">You might consider including those islands, held by South Korea, off North Korea's southwestern coast -- at least five of them, including Yeonpyeong, shelled by NKorea in November 2010. NKorea may not be claiming the islands as such but challenges the Northern Limit Line between the islands and the coast -- and at some stage may <VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>claim them as well.</SPAN></div>
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<DIV id=yiv1711806234>I have a little chart of East Asian island disputes. Are there any missing from this list, or any inaccuracies as to claimants or anything else?<WBR><WBR>
<div style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt" class=yiv1711806234MsoNormal><SPAN>Dokdo (Liancourt Rocks)<SPAN> </SPAN>Korea/Japan/North Korea</SPAN></div>
<div style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt" class=yiv1711806234MsoNormal><SPAN>Kuril Islands<SPAN> </SPAN>Japan/Russia</SPAN></div>
<div style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt" class=yiv1711806234MsoNormal><SPAN>Macclesfield Bank<SPAN> </SPAN>China/Taiwan/Philippines</SPAN></div>
<div style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt" class=yiv1711806234MsoNormal><SPAN>Matsu Islands<SPAN> </SPAN>China/Taiwan</SPAN></div>
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<div style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt" class=yiv1711806234MsoNormal><SPAN>Pedra Branca/Middle Rocks/South Ledge<SPAN> </SPAN>Malaysia/Singapore</SPAN></div>
<div style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt" class=yiv1711806234MsoNormal><SPAN>Pratas Islands<SPAN> </SPAN>China/Taiwan</SPAN></div>
<div style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt" class=yiv1711806234MsoNormal><SPAN>Quemoy (Kinmen)<SPAN> </SPAN>China/Taiwan</SPAN></div>
<div style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt" class=yiv1711806234MsoNormal><SPAN>Ryukyu Islands<SPAN> </SPAN>Japan/China/Taiwan</SPAN></div>
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<div style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt" class=yiv1711806234MsoNormal><SPAN>Senkaku Islands (Diaoyu Islands)<SPAN> </SPAN>Taiwan/Japan/China</SPAN></div>
<div style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt" class=yiv1711806234MsoNormal><SPAN>Socotra Rock (Ioedo)<SPAN> </SPAN>Korea/China</SPAN></div><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Spratly Islands<SPAN> </SPAN>China/Taiwan/Malaysia/Philippines/Vietnam/Brunei<BR><BR>Mark R. Harris<SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN><WBR><WBR>
<DIV class=yiv1711806234gmail_quote>On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:54 AM, don kirk <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:kirkdon@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:kirkdon@yahoo.com">kirkdon@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<WBR>
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<DIV><SPAN>Thanks for that reality check. I too was a little surprised to see such quick endorsement of an ad on the Senkaku/Diaoyu question. Should Japan also be taking out a full-page ad? </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>If we accept the Chinese view<VAR></VAR>, would we go from there to acceptance of the view, already expressed in China, of China's sovereignty over Okinawa? Another complication is that Taipei and Beijing won't be thinking as one on Diaoyu if the question comes up as to who's in charge. Would the islands go to the closest Taiwan county? What would Beijijng say/do then -- send "fishing" boats to challenge Taiwan control?</SPAN></DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 16px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">--- On <B style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.2em; OUTLINE-STYLE: none">Wed, 10/10/12, <SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.2em; OUTLINE-STYLE: none"><A href="mailto:gkl1@columbia.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:gkl1@columbia.edu">gkl1@columbia.edu</A></SPAN> <I style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.2em; OUTLINE-STYLE: none"><<A href="mailto:gkl1@columbia.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:gkl1@columbia.edu">gkl1@columbia.edu</A>></I></B> wrote:
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