<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Dear all</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>It is indeed a bit obscure, you may find this entry http://www.zdic.net/zd/zi3/ZdicF0ZdicA5ZdicA3Zdic8B.htm, where it is identified as "</span>[～秫]高粱。冀鲁官话。" but Hanyu Da Zidian p. 2635 says that is is rather maize: 𥣋 『𥣋秫』也作”蜀黍“。即玉米。</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Sincerely <br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Your</div><div style="color:
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------------>><br> <br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Obscure Chinese character (William B. McCloy)<br> 2. Re: Obscure Chinese character (Dr. Edward D. Rockstein)<br> 3. Re: Obscure Chinese character (William B. McCloy)<br><div id="yiv1381616732"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv1381616732WordSection1"><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Werner,</span></div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">It’s listed in the Unicode database “Unihan” here: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=258CB&useutf8=true">http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=258CB&useutf8=true</a> </span></div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div
class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Best,</span></div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Bill McCloy</span></div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";"> Koreanstudies
[mailto:koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Werner Sasse<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 06, 2013 6:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> list korean studies<br><b>Subject:</b> [KS] Obscure Chinese character</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";">Hello to all of you.</span></div><div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";"> </span></div><div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";">Has anyone come across a </span>“Chinese (?)” character consisting of <span style="font-family:"PMingLiU", "serif";" lang="ZH-CN">禾</span>+<span style="font-family:"PMingLiU", "serif";" lang="ZH-CN">蜀</span>, not to be found in any Chinese or
Korean dictionary in my library. From the context I know that it must mean "sorghum".<span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal">One possibility coming to my mind is that it was made up on the base of Sichuan sorghum <i>shushu</i> <span style="font-family:"PMingLiU", "serif";" lang="ZH-CN">蜀黍</span>, Kor. <i>choksŏ ,</i>but this is a mere guess. <i><br></i>Any help appreciated...<span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal">Best,<span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1381616732MsoNormal">Werner<span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv1355537267"><table border="0" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font:inherit;" valign="top">Not in <i>Mathews' Chinese Dictionary, Ueda Daijiten</i>, Tong-a <i>Han-han Tae Sajo^n . </i>Not in the unicode unihan<i> </i>list<i> </i>[unless it is one of three characters the my PC could not display]. Not in any of my Chinese-Chinese dictionaries. Perhaps the Zhongwen Dazidian 中文大字典 would be the best bet or Morohashi 諸橋大漢和辞典, neither of which I have any longer.<br><br><div id="yiv1355537267RTEContent"><div id="yiv1355537267RTEContent"><div id="yiv1355537267RTEContent"><div id="yiv1355537267RTEContent"><div id="yiv1355537267RTEContent"><div id="yiv1355537267RTEContent"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://koreanpoems.blogspot.com/">Dr. Edward D. Rockstein </a><br></div><div class="yiv1355537267MsoNormal"><br>ed4linda@yahoo.com <font color="#00bf60"><i><br><br>"All history was a palimpsest,
scraped clean and re-inscribed exactly asoften as was
necessary."</i></font><br>George Orwell; Nineteen Eighty-Four; 1949.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br>--- On <b>Mon, 5/6/13, Werner Sasse <i><werner_sasse@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;"><br>From: Werner Sasse <werner_sasse@hotmail.com><br>Subject: [KS] Obscure Chinese character<br>To: "list korean studies" <koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws><br>Date: Monday, May 6, 2013, 9:28 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1355537267">
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<div><div dir="ltr"><font size="3">Hello to all of you.</font><div><font size="3"><br></font><div><font size="3">Has anyone come across a <span style="line-height:115%;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;" lang="EN-US">“Chinese (?)”
character consisting of </span><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:바탕, serif;">禾</span><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;" lang="EN-US">+</span><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:바탕, serif;">蜀</span><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;" lang="EN-US">, not to be found in any Chinese or Korean dictionary in my library. From the context I know that it must mean "sorghum".</span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;" lang="EN-US">One possibility coming to my mind is that it was made up on the base of </span><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;" lang="EN-US">Sichuan
sorghum <i>shushu</i> </span><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:바탕, serif;">蜀黍</span><span style="line-height:115%;"><font face="Times New Roman, serif">, </font></span></font><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;" lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Kor. </font><i><font size="3">choksŏ ,</font></i><span style="line-height:115%;" lang="EN-US"><font size="3">but
this is a mere guess. </font></span><i><br></i></span><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;" lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Any help appreciated...</font></span></div><div><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;" lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Best,</font></span></div><div><span style="line-height:115%;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;" lang="EN-US"><font size="3">Werner</font></span></div></div> </div></div>
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--></style><div><div class="yiv933176985WordSection1"><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">According to another website ( <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://ctext.org/dictionary.pl?if=gb&char=%F0%A5%A3%8B">http://ctext.org/dictionary.pl?if=gb&char=%F0%A5%A3%8B</a> ), apparently, this character can be found in at least two Chinese dictionaries: Kangxi Zidian and Hanyu Dazidian (</span><span style="font-family:SimSun;" lang="ZH-CN">康熙字典</span>: <span style="font-family:SimSun;color:#AAAAAA;" lang="ZH-CN">頁</span><span style="color:#AAAAAA;">861</span><span style="font-family:SimSun;color:#AAAAAA;" lang="ZH-CN">第</span><span style="color:#AAAAAA;">05</span> <span style="font-family:SimSun;" lang="ZH-CN">漢語大字典</span>: <span style="font-family:SimSun;" lang="ZH-CN">卷</span>4<span style="font-family:SimSun;" lang="ZH-CN">頁</span>2635<span style="font-family:SimSun;"
lang="ZH-CN">第</span>08). I don’t know why the pagination is greyed out for the Kangxi Zidian. I suspect that most or all editions must lack pagination.<span style="color:#1F497D;"></span></div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Bill</span></div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> William B. McCloy [mailto:wbmccloy@u.washington.edu] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Korean Studies Discussion List'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [KS] Obscure Chinese character</div></div></div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Werner,</span></div><div
class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">It’s listed in the Unicode database “Unihan” here: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=258CB&useutf8=true">http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=258CB&useutf8=true</a> </span></div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Best,</span></div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Bill McCloy</span></div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div
class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";"> Koreanstudies [<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws" target="_blank" href="mailto:koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws">mailto:koreanstudies-bounces@koreaweb.ws</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Werner Sasse<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 06, 2013 6:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> list korean studies<br><b>Subject:</b> [KS] Obscure Chinese character</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";">Hello to all of you.</span></div><div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";"> </span></div><div><div
class="yiv933176985MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";">Has anyone come across a </span>“Chinese (?)” character consisting of <span style="font-family:"PMingLiU", "serif";" lang="ZH-CN">禾</span>+<span style="font-family:"PMingLiU", "serif";" lang="ZH-CN">蜀</span>, not to be found in any Chinese or Korean dictionary in my library. From the context I know that it must mean "sorghum".<span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal">One possibility coming to my mind is that it was made up on the base of Sichuan sorghum <i>shushu</i> <span style="font-family:"PMingLiU", "serif";" lang="ZH-CN">蜀黍</span>, Kor. <i>choksŏ ,</i>but this is a mere guess. <i><br></i>Any help appreciated...<span style="font-family:"Calibri",
"sans-serif";"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal">Best,<span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv933176985MsoNormal">Werner<span style="font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>