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Dear Werner and listmembers:<BR>
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My NJ Star software does not list the compound character you cited, but offers the following:<BR>
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玉蜀黍【</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">yùshǔshǔ</FONT><FONT lang=ZH-TW face=MingliU>】-</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"> maize; corn.</FONT><BR>
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<FONT face="Times New Roman">This translation was also found in the Nanyang Siang Pau/Umum Learners Dictionary, page 544.</FONT><BR>
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<FONT face="Times New Roman">Best regards,</FONT><BR>
<FONT face="Times New Roman">Lawrence Driscoll</FONT><BR>
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Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 12:48:10 -0700<BR>From: vladous2000@yahoo.com<BR>To: koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws<BR>Subject: Re: [KS] Obscure Chinese character<BR><BR>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,new york,times,serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 16px"><SPAN>It is indeed a bit obscure, you may find this entry http://www.zdic.net/zd/zi3/ZdicF0ZdicA5ZdicA3Zdic8B.htm, where it is identified as "</SPAN>[～秫]高粱。冀鲁官话。" but Hanyu Da Zidian p. 2635 says that is is rather maize: 𥣋 『𥣋秫』也作”蜀黍“。即玉米。</DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1381616732MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It’s listed in the Unicode database “Unihan” here: <A href="http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=258CB&useutf8=true" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=258CB&useutf8=true</A> </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1381616732MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Has anyone come across a </SPAN>“Chinese (?)” character consisting of <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'PMingLiU', 'serif'" lang=ZH-CN>禾</SPAN>+<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'PMingLiU', 'serif'" lang=ZH-CN>蜀</SPAN>, not to be found in any Chinese or Korean dictionary in my library. From the context I know that it must mean "sorghum".<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1381616732MsoNormal>One possibility coming to my mind is that it was made up on the base of Sichuan sorghum <I>shushu</I> <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'PMingLiU', 'serif'" lang=ZH-CN>蜀黍</SPAN>, Kor. <I>choksŏ ,</I>but this is a mere guess. <I><BR></I>Any help appreciated...<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Not in <I>Mathews' Chinese Dictionary, Ueda Daijiten</I>, Tong-a <I>Han-han Tae Sajo^n . </I>Not in the unicode unihan<I> </I>list<I> </I>[unless it is one of three characters the my PC could not display]. Not in any of my Chinese-Chinese dictionaries. Perhaps the Zhongwen Dazidian 中文大字典 would be the best bet or Morohashi 諸橋大漢和辞典, neither of which I have any longer.<BR><BR>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv1355537267MsoNormal><BR>ed4linda@yahoo.com <FONT color=#00bf60><I><BR><BR>"All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and re-inscribed exactly asoften as was necessary."</I></FONT><BR>George Orwell; Nineteen Eighty-Four; 1949.<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 5/6/13, Werner Sasse <I><werner_sasse@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Werner Sasse <werner_sasse@hotmail.com><BR>Subject: [KS] Obscure Chinese character<BR>To: "list korean studies" <koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws><BR>Date: Monday, May 6, 2013, 9:28 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Has anyone come across a <SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif" lang=EN-US>“Chinese (?)” character consisting of </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 바탕, serif">禾</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif" lang=EN-US>+</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 바탕, serif">蜀</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif" lang=EN-US>, not to be found in any Chinese or Korean dictionary in my library. From the context I know that it must mean "sorghum".</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif" lang=EN-US>One possibility coming to my mind is that it was made up on the base of </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif" lang=EN-US>Sichuan sorghum <I>shushu</I> </SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 바탕, serif">蜀黍</SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%"><FONT face="Times New Roman, serif">, </FONT></SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif" lang=EN-US><FONT size=3>Kor. </FONT><I><FONT size=3>choksŏ ,</FONT></I><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%" lang=EN-US><FONT size=3>but this is a mere guess. </FONT></SPAN><I><BR></I></SPAN><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif" lang=EN-US><FONT size=3>Any help appreciated...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv933176985MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">According to another website ( <A href="http://ctext.org/dictionary.pl?if=gb&char=%F0%A5%A3%8B" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://ctext.org/dictionary.pl?if=gb&char=%F0%A5%A3%8B</A> ), apparently, this character can be found in at least two Chinese dictionaries: Kangxi Zidian and Hanyu Dazidian (</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun" lang=ZH-CN>康熙字典</SPAN>: <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; COLOR: #aaaaaa" lang=ZH-CN>頁</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #aaaaaa">861</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; COLOR: #aaaaaa" lang=ZH-CN>第</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #aaaaaa">05</SPAN> <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun" lang=ZH-CN>漢語大字典</SPAN>: <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun" lang=ZH-CN>卷</SPAN>4<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun" lang=ZH-CN>頁</SPAN>2635<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun" lang=ZH-CN>第</SPAN>08). I don’t know why the pagination is greyed out for the Kangxi Zidian. I suspect that most or all editions must lack pagination.<SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv933176985MsoNormal><B>From:</B> William B. McCloy [mailto:wbmccloy@u.washington.edu] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:00 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Korean Studies Discussion List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [KS] Obscure Chinese character</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv933176985MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">It’s listed in the Unicode database “Unihan” here: <A href="http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=258CB&useutf8=true" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=258CB&useutf8=true</A> </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxyiv933176985MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Has anyone come across a </SPAN>“Chinese (?)” character consisting of <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'PMingLiU', 'serif'" lang=ZH-CN>禾</SPAN>+<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'PMingLiU', 'serif'" lang=ZH-CN>蜀</SPAN>, not to be found in any Chinese or Korean dictionary in my library. From the context I know that it must mean "sorghum".<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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