<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Dear all, I really appreciate what wrote Frank H. <br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">especially the sentence "PUST is very nice to have, as it is extremely cheap to operate. Yes at home, it's so easy to control what is happening and the fact that lecturers are working there for free is even maybe ironic :) <br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family:
HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Of course, students have lectures but are they doing concrete CASES, are they applicating in some ways what they are practicing (I mean with foreign onentities ?) <br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I wonder what will do the future management of the PUST as the founder is
getting really old (who are his counterparts)</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Nevertheless I encourage this initiative in spite of its limited effects.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Nicolas<br></div><div><br></div> <div
style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Frank Hoffmann <hoffmann@koreanstudies.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> koreanstudies@koreanstudies.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Dimanche 9 février 2014 20h59<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [KS] Pyongyang Univ of Science & Tech (PUST) on BBC1 TV, Mon 3 Feb, 2030 ...<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>>> Maybe the PUST is only something like the church in Pyongyang ?<br clear="none">>> (...) the PUST is rather creating future elites of the DPRK<br
clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sure. Those for technology, mostly. As I suggested, _Gleichschaltung_: <br clear="none">long-term, well organized dictatorships do not have a separation of <br clear="none">legislature and executive. If so, than only on paper, but in North <br clear="none">Korea even that is not seriously staged. It is all the same. And <br clear="none">organizations are not in any way independent either, they all follow <br clear="none">the same directives. THAT then also creates the big setback for <br clear="none">dictatorships: there is no feedback, no pool of live knowledge that <br clear="none">gets renewed and that allows government and regional policies to be <br clear="none">adjusted to real life needs. Twenty million rolls of toilet paper is <br clear="none">twenty million rolls of toilet paper. Don't dare to get an influenza.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">PUST is very nice to have, as it is extremely
cheap to operate. In the <br clear="none">1990s to 2000s Korean technology students would mostly go to Macao, <br clear="none">Hong Kong, and mainland China. Probably they still do now. It certainly <br clear="none">makes economically more sense to bring some educators in and have the <br clear="none">students not leave the country -- that is far more safe from their <br clear="none">perspective: no threads their students could become spies, complete <br clear="none">mind control, and they get trained with the developing technology that <br clear="none">is already in place in North Korea. When you do technology training <br clear="none">what you want to have is an environment that combines theoretical <br clear="none">education, practical training, and the later actual existing work <br clear="none">environment and "machinery". That is what they have achieved now -- <br clear="none">well, partially. But that is where they go. Since these days everything
<br clear="none">is via and about the Internet (and they are now also independent from <br clear="none">China with at least one of their satellite nets, so they can't be 'cut <br clear="none">off'), what they needed is a pool of teachers that bridges various <br clear="none">other issues, such as technical language. Having PUST is the smoothest <br clear="none">solution to have a technological development while absolutely <br clear="none">minimizing foreign contact and influence. Knowing that half of these <br clear="none">teachers must be spies (supposedly British and Australians mostly), <br clear="none">they of course monitor them like little rats in the cage (as the film <br clear="none">also demonstrated). .... So, however anyone "touches" that whole scene <br clear="none">there, even us here discussing the topic, it always draws one down to <br clear="none">those levels of human trash and disgust. Depressing! <br clear="none"><br
clear="none">Isn't it?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Frank<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yqt8445110207" id="yqtfd90614"><br clear="none">On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 17:52:49 +0000 (GMT), levi nicolas wrote:<br clear="none">> Maybe the PUST is only something like the church in Pyongyang ? The <br clear="none">> PUS is a sad place in my eyes, because I though that the freedom of <br clear="none">> speech was higher there than in other places. It's seem to be the <br clear="none">> same as on other places. For me, the PUST is rather creating future <br clear="none">> elites of the DPRK who will manage the NK system keeping the <br clear="none">> standards of the NK system. <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Best,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Nicolas<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>