<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>makes more sense. </div><div>But , since it is a big mt. top cannot be certain. <br><div apple-content-edited="true">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Hyung Il Pai<br>Professor, East Asian Languages and Cultural Studies<br>HSSB Building, University of California, Santa Barbara<br>CA 93106. U.S.A. <br>Fax: 805-893-7671<br>Email: <a href="mailto:hyungpai@eastasian.ucsb.edu">hyungpai@eastasian.ucsb.edu</a><br>Dept Home-page profile: <span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><a href="http://www.eastasian.ucsb.edu/home/faculty/hyung-il-pai/">http://www.eastasian.ucsb.edu/home/faculty/hyung-il-pai/</a></span></div><div><br></div></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br><div><div>On Oct 7, 2014, at 2:02 AM, Frank Hoffmann <<a href="mailto:hoffmann@koreanstudies.com">hoffmann@koreanstudies.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Picture puzzle:<br><br>In order to identify the perspective shown in a 1904 graphic (done in <br>paris after a photo) I am trying to figure out from where these early <br>two photos were taken.<br>-> <a href="http://koreanstudies.com/articles1/place.jpg">http://koreanstudies.com/articles1/place.jpg</a><br> (will later be removed again)<br><br>According to Samuel Hawley who posted it, the photo on the LEFT is by <br>George Foulk. So I suppose it must have been taken between 1885 and <br>1887. Hawley states in the caption: "central avenue in Seoul leading <br>west from *Tongdaemun*, the Great East Gate."<br>(<a href="http://www.samuelhawley.com/hermitkingdom1.html">http://www.samuelhawley.com/hermitkingdom1.html</a>)<br><br>The photo on the RIGHT must, I think, also be from the late 1880s, but <br>certainly from before 1897, as there are no streetcars and no electric <br>powerlines to be seen yet. You find this photo reproduced in various <br>Korean and Japanese Internet blogs (there mostly with the date "1880s" <br>given). In all those posts the location the photo was shot from is <br>given as *Namdaemun*.<br><br>The mountains in the background tell us that we are looking into the <br>same direction -- well, almost.<br>The distance from the viewer to those mountains, though, appears not to <br>be the same. However, if I cut the photo on the left (by Foulk), so the <br>photos show us more or less the same area, then that first impression <br>proofs to be wrong:<br>--> <a href="http://koreanstudies.com/articles1/place2.jpg">http://koreanstudies.com/articles1/place2.jpg</a><br><br>My simple question is:<br>Does anyone know for sure if these two photos were taken from Namdaemun <br>Gate OR from Tongdaemun Gate, and towards what direction? There are <br>plenty of notes on various Internet blogs, but as it goes people just <br>copy information, also wrong information. Maybe you would know by <br>identifying those mountains?<br>This, by the way, is a view from Namdaemun towards Myŏngdong Cathedral <br>in construction (the big building in the background, middle of the <br>picture, with its tower not yet raised).<br>--> <a href="http://koreanstudies.com/articles1/place3.jpg">http://koreanstudies.com/articles1/place3.jpg</a><br><br><br>Best,<br>Frank<br><br><br><br><br>--------------------------------------<br>Frank Hoffmann<br><a href="http://koreanstudies.com">http://koreanstudies.com</a></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>