<div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423158350500_27442" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423158350500_27441">Much thanks to Don Baker and Victoria Ten for their help. I'm tracking down those sources now.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423158350500_27443" dir="ltr"><span>Deberniere Torrey.</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, February 5, 2015 10:00 AM, "koreanstudies-request@koreanstudies.com" <koreanstudies-request@koreanstudies.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container">----- Forwarded Message -----<br><br>Send Koreanstudies mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:koreanstudies@koreanstudies.com" href="mailto:koreanstudies@koreanstudies.com">koreanstudies@koreanstudies.com</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://koreanstudies.com/mailman/listinfo/koreanstudies_koreanstudies.com" target="_blank">http://koreanstudies.com/mailman/listinfo/koreanstudies_koreanstudies.com</a><br><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:koreanstudies-request@koreanstudies.com" href="mailto:koreanstudies-request@koreanstudies.com">koreanstudies-request@koreanstudies.com</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a ymailto="mailto:koreanstudies-owner@koreanstudies.com" href="mailto:koreanstudies-owner@koreanstudies.com">koreanstudies-owner@koreanstudies.com</a><br><br>!!!!!!!!! When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more<br>specific than "Re: Contents of Koreanstudies digest..." !!!!!!!!!<br><br><<------------ KoreanStudies mailing list DIGEST ------------>><br> <br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. punishment of women in Choson (DeberniereTorrey)<br> 2. punishment of women in Choson (Victoria Ten)<br><div id="yiv9852108911"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3289">Dear Members:</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3272">I'm trying to track down an authoritative reference for a claim that I've come across in several scholarly sources (both English and Korean), none of which gives a citation for this information: <b style="" class="yiv9852108911" id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3275">that the Choson state was more lenient toward <span id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3305" style="" class="yiv9852108911">women</span> as criminals, since they were considered subject to and therefore less responsible than men</b>. The statement fits my understanding of Choson values and legislation, but I have yet to find a specific reference. Deuchler's <i id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3333" style="" class="yiv9852108911">Confucian Transformation</i> briefly mentions cases of leniency toward <i id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3302" style="" class="yiv9852108911">yangban </i><span id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3321" style="" class="yiv9852108911">women</span>,
but goes no further. I've read that the Ming
code was somewhat lenient toward female criminals, placing them in
the custody of family members rather than in jail, and I understand the
Choson criminal code was based on the Ming code. I've also checked <i id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3332" style="" class="yiv9852108911"><span id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3361" style="" class="yiv9852108911">Women</span> and Confucianism in Choson</i> by Pettid and Kim, as well as the recent <i id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3350" style="" class="yiv9852108911">Wrongful Deaths</i> by Sunjoo Kim, but haven't found specific reference to the above topic in these sources. Any help would be appreciated. </div><div id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3388" dir="ltr">Thank you,<br></div><div id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3376" dir="ltr">Deberniere Torrey<br></div><div id="yiv9852108911yui_3_16_0_1_1423092377536_3271"><br></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv9852108911"><div dir="ltr"><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;"></span></font><div class="yiv9852108911gmail_extra">
<div class="yiv9852108911MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;">This might help you, though it’s not
directly your subject: Kim, Nayeon. 2012. “Indoctrinating Female Virture: the
Social use of Chosŏn Woodblock Prints” (paper presented at Eighth Worldwide
Consortium of Korean Studies Centers Workshop, July 4-7, 2012, Seoul, South
Korea). Or at least the bibliography at the end can help.</span></div><div class="yiv9852108911MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;"><br></span></div>
<div class="yiv9852108911MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;">Samgang Haengsildo (</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;" lang="KO">三綱行實圖</span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;">, Illustrated Exemplars of the Three Bonds) was commissioned in
1428 by King Sejong (1418-1450) for the purpose of ‘people education’ and
woodblock-printed in 1434 (Kim, Nayeon 2012: 225, 228, 232). The Three Bonds
describe the three social structures, the three ethical obligations of loyalty
and servitude. The subject must serve the king, the son or daughter must serve
the parent, and the wife must serve the husband. Thus formulated moral and
social obligations show that women were traditionally included among the
subjects of virtue in East-Asia. But this is theory, and practice might be
different. Interesting question in this respect is whether children were considered
less responsible for crimes than their parents, as according to Three Bonds
sons and daughters are subjected to parents just as wives are subjected to
husbands. </span></div>
<br></div><div class="yiv9852108911gmail_extra">Victoria Ten<br></div><div class="yiv9852108911gmail_extra">Leiden University<br></div><div class="yiv9852108911gmail_extra"><br><div class="yiv9852108911gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Jim Hoare <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jim@jhoare10.fsnet.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:jim@jhoare10.fsnet.co.uk">jim@jhoare10.fsnet.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv9852108911gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
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<div class="yiv9852108911MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;"> Koreanstudies
[mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:koreanstudies-bounces@koreanstudies.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:koreanstudies-bounces@koreanstudies.com">koreanstudies-bounces@koreanstudies.com</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>DeberniereTorrey<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> 04 February 2015 23:35<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [KS] punishment of women
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trying to track down an authoritative reference for a claim that I've come
across in several scholarly sources (both English and Korean), none of which
gives a citation for this information: <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">that the Choson state was more lenient toward <span>women</span> as criminals, since they were
considered subject to and therefore less responsible than men</span></b>. The
statement fits my understanding of Choson values and legislation, but I have
yet to find a specific reference. Deuchler's <i><span style="font-style:italic;">Confucian
Transformation</span></i> briefly mentions cases of leniency toward <i><span style="font-style:italic;">yangban </span></i><span>women</span>, but goes no further. I've
read that the Ming code was somewhat lenient toward female criminals, placing
them in the custody of family members rather than in jail, and I understand the
Choson criminal code was based on the Ming code. I've also checked <i><span><span style="font-style:italic;">Women</span> and Confucianism in Choson</span></i> by
Pettid and Kim, as well as the recent <i><span style="font-style:italic;">Wrongful Deaths</span></i> by Sunjoo Kim, but haven't
found specific reference to the above topic in these sources. Any help would be
appreciated. </span></font></div>
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