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<p>Dear Dennis, </p>
<p>the <span>한국세시풍속사전</span> was of no help in my questions, simply because it did not address them. The suggestion there (and repeated again and again elsewhere) that with Guo Pu the origin has been found is only guesswork and besides off the point. Not to
mention my other questions... </p>
<p>Much of scholarship these days has the bad habit of simply not bothering to search for this kind of background information whenever it is not easily found. But I always feel that readers should be put into the position to understand not only the surface
information of enigmatic statements like the one I mentioned. I suspect he writer has drawn on some knowledge common among educated people in his days but which is unavailable to the foreign reader (and most likely the native one these days as well). Maybe
I am a dreamer...<br>
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<p>Werner</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 10, 2016 9:10 AM<br>
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I'm guessing you already checked this source, but did the 한국세시풍속사전's entry on the "Three Ruining Days" help at all or was that part of your three ruined days? (sorry I couldn't help myself!).<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Werner Sasse <span dir="ltr">
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">Dear colleagues,</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">In a translation I am working at there is a paragraph which bothers me, but I cannot come up with solutions. Any help will be appreciated...</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">初五</span><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">十四</span><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">
</span><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">二十三日</span><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">稱三敗日</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:160%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:8pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">
The 5</span><sup><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">th</span></sup><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">, 14</span><sup><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">th</span></sup><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">,
and 23</span><sup><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">rd</span></sup><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt"> days are called the “Three Ruining Days”.
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt; line-height:160%"><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">每月忌百事</span><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">
</span><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">不敢動作</span><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">
</span><span style="line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">不宜出行
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; line-height:160%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">Every Month people are afraid to do anything, any work or leaving the house.
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<p><font face="굴림"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt"></span></font><span style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">盖</span><span style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">自麗俗</span><span style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">以此三日</span><span style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">卽君上所用之日</span><span style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">故臣民不容爲忌日</span><span style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">云</span><span style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">本非敗日也</span><span style="color:black; line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">
It is said that since Kory</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">ŏ customarily the king took these three days and therefore ministers and all people incorrectly made them into taboo days.
Originally they were not “Ruining Days”</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">Questions I have:</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><br>
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt">1) 5-14-23 with the difference of 9 makes me think of the<span style="font-size:16pt">
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:16pt">Nine Influencers
</span><span style="line-height:115%; font-size:16pt">九曜</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:16pt"> (skr.
</span><i><span style="font-size:16pt">Nahagraha</span></i><span style="font-size:16pt">, often translated as “planets” or “luminaries”). Does it have to do with birthday or any other important event? With mercury (number
<span style="font-size:16pt">5 in numerology) </span><span style="font-size:16pt">and its influence? Or with
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:16pt">jupiter
</span><i><span style="font-size:16pt">mok-chiks</span></i></span><i><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:16pt">ŏng</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:16pt">
</span><span style="line-height:115%; font-size:16pt"><span style="font-size:16pt">木直星, </span><font face="Times New Roman" size="5"><span style="font-size:16pt">the 5th of the
</span><span style="line-height:115%; font-size:16pt">九曜</span><span style="font-size:16pt">?</span></font><span style="font-size:16pt"> </span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:16pt">2) which Kory<span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt">ŏ
king (or, since it is a <em>hanmun</em> text, Kogury<span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt">ŏ "king")?
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt">3)
And who is behind the "It is said..."?</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><br>
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt">Translations,
secondary literature, and three days wasted in the internet did not help me. Of course, I could just not bother and translate the text as it is, but I would just like to find some background to these enigmatic statements. It would be nice for me and probably
for any serious reader of the translation...</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><br>
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt">Looking
forward</span></span></span></span></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%; font-family:"Times New Roman",Times,serif; font-size:16pt">Werner</span></span></span></span></span></p>
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