[KS] The Romanization Discussion

[lawrence driscoll]

Dear fellow listmembers,
It was I who suggested early in the thread that romanization is "a necessary 
evil" ... but the fact that it's very necessary, can't be denied. I have a 
lot to learn about the subject and so I'd like to thank Dr. Ledyard and 
others for taking the time to enlighten us on recent developments coming 
from all quarters. I look forward to reading the views of other experts who 
may be so inclined to contribute.
Once again thank you Dr. Ledyard for your thoughtful input to so many KS 
discussions.
Best regards,
Lawrence Driscoll

>From: gkl1 at columbia.edu
>Reply-To: Korean Studies Discussion List <Koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
>To: Korean Studies Discussion List <Koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
>Subject: Re: [KS] The Romanization Discussion
>Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:54:06 -0400
>
>As a long-time list veteran who has been through many discussions on
>romanization that ended nowhere, I expressed myself tired of the
>subject in a posting a few weeks ago. Stefan Ewing, who obviously
>has a genuine, sincere, and informed interest in this topic, seems
>to have taken my message as a damper, and may have stopped talking
>about it before he really wanted to. I'm grateful for Mr McGuire
>giving him an opportunity to get into it again. I deeply regret it
>if something that I wrote has dissuaded anybody from saying
>anything they want to say on this list. I have no wish to do so,
>ever.
>    I was surprised that Sang Oak's message-- which really was a very
>significant comment on the subject, elicited no responses. As a
>friend of Sang Oak and one familiar with his many efforts to
>encourage the official Korean romanization discussions of 1999 to
>move in open and flexible directions, when his own position between
>his Korean colleagues and his foreign friends made things somewhat
>tight for him, I have always thought he deserved and deserves the
>gratitude of all of us. His conclusion that Korea needs three
>romanization systems is a pragmatic and sensible recognition of
>reality, and I am sure that that is the way it will play out in the
>future. Here's to you, Sang Oak!  And let no one hesitate to talk
>about what they want to talk about, no matter what some old crank
>might think!
>
>Gari Ledyard
>
>Quoting Stefan Ewing <sa_ewing at hotmail.com>:
>
> > Dear KS list members:
> >
> > John McGuire asks a very good question.  Professor Lee gave some
> > quite
> > interesting anecdotes and observations regarding his own personal
> > involvement in the development of both the 1984 and 2000 South
> > Korean
> > romanization systems, and I would have liked to see more comments
> > from other
> > participants, or more stories from Professor Lee.
> >
> > In answer to John McGuire's question, the discussion just seems
> > to have
> > died, unless there's an off-list discussion going on to which I
> > am not
> > privy.  For my part, I decided to heed Gari Ledyard's last
> > comment on the
> > general topic of KS discussions of romanization, and hold back
> > from holding
> > forth any further on the subject.
> >
> > I'm still trying to think of a new topic to stimulate discussion,
> > but moving
> > house and other personal matters have kept me occupied.
> >
> > Stefan Ewing
> >
> > >From: "John McGuire" <wiredsquiremcguire at hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: Korean Studies Discussion List
> > <Koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
> > >To: Koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws
> > >Subject: [KS] The Romanization Discussion
> > >Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 03:06:38 +0000
> > >
> > >Up until June 19, I had been reading with some interest the
> > discussion on
> > >this list concerning the Romanization of the Korean language.
> > The last
> > >message that I received in that thread came from Prof. Lee
> > Sang-Oak, who
> > >suggested (if I understand him correctly) that the system was
> > changed in
> > >2000 partly because a Mr. Oh, in the Ministry of Culture and
> > Tourism, "was
> > >very eager to obtain some new achievement to be promoted." Given
> > the costs
> > >and trouble involved in changing a system of transliteration, it
> > is
> > >astonishing, if true, that the change would have been motivated,
> > even in
> > >part, by one man's career ambitions. What is more astonishing,
> > however, is
> > >the silence on this list following Prof. Lee's message. Did the
> > discussion
> > >really die or was it moved off of this list?
> > >
> > >John McGuire
> > >
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