[KS] Koreanstudies Digest, Vol 107, Issue 10

Tue May 15 08:48:32 EDT 2012

PCUS stands for Presbyterian Church in the US, the denomination
commonly referred to as "Southern Presbyterians," being the southern
branch of the civil war split among American Presbyterians,
headquartered in Atlanta. The PCUSA were the "Northern Presbyterians,"
headquartered in New York.
     In Korea, the various Presbyterian Missions were concentrated in
separate territories, though they cooperated through their common
theological seminary in Pyongyang, which produced clergy for the
single (pre-war) PCK, Presbyterian Church of Korea. The Southern PCUS
mission was concentrated in Honam. The Northern PCUSA mission was
concentrated in the northwest Pyong'an provinces. Canadian
Presbyterians worked I'm the northeast, and Australian Presbyterians
worked in Pusan/Masan/Chinju.
      In addition to these regional concentrations there was plenty of
overlap/cooperation in major centers like PY, Seoul (Yonhi/Severance),
Taegu, and elsewhere.
      All this was before 1941.
Don Clark

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>   1. Re: Great Chos?n Ramie Spinning, Ltd. (??? ?? ?? ??) (don kirk)
>   2. Re: Great Chos?n Ramie Spinning, Ltd. (??? ?? ?? ??)
>      (Eugene Y. Park)
>   3. Message (BJ)
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> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 16:22:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: don kirk <kirkdon at yahoo.com>
> To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
> Subject: Re: [KS] Great Chos?n Ramie Spinning, Ltd. (??? ?? ?? ??)
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> Presbyterian Church of the US, no?
> Don Kirk
>
> --- On Sun, 5/13/12, Kenneth Robinson <anagosama at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Kenneth Robinson <anagosama at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [KS] Great Chos?n Ramie Spinning, Ltd. (??? ?? ?? ??)
> To: "Korean Studies Listserve" <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
> Date: Sunday, May 13, 2012, 8:07 PM
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> To all,
> ?
> Ummm, in the previous message, what does "PCUS" stand for? The abbreviation does not appear in earlier messages in this thread. Thank you.
> ?
> ?
> Ken Robinson
>
>
>
>
> From: sungoak at hotmail.com
> To: koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws
> Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 03:10:46 -0400
> Subject: Re: [KS] Great Chos?n Ramie Spinning, Ltd. (??? ?? ?? ??)
>
>
>
>
> Dear
> Rev. Cameron Johnson?left Korea soon after his arrival in Seoul in 1892 and worked in Japan.
> He occasionally visited Korea.?He was a very conservative clerical?missionary of PCUS.
> So?he?was not related to the business in Seoul at all.
> Best,
> Sung Deuk Oak
> ?
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 05:04:22 +0200
>> From: klaus-dittrich at gmx.de
>> To: koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws
>> Subject: Re: [KS] Great Chos?n Ramie Spinning, Ltd. (??? ?? ?? ??)
>>
>> There was also another American named Cameron Johnson, missionary of the Southern Presbyterian Church, arriving to Korea in October 1892 and living in Pyeongyang around 1897.
>> But I doubt that missionaries got involved in business activities in such a straightforward way.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Klaus
>>
>> --
>> Klaus DITTRICH, Ph.D. ???? ????
>> Assistant Professor at the Department of Korean History, Korea University, Seoul, South Korea
>>
>>
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>> Datum: Fri, 11 May 2012 07:51:01 -0400
>>> Von: Frank Hoffmann <hoffmann at koreaweb.ws>
>>> An: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
>>> Betreff: Re: [KS] Great Chos?n Ramie Spinning, Ltd. (??? ?? ?? ??)
>>
>>>> Might "??? ???(American)" refer to Walter D. Townsend of The
>>>
>>>> American Trading Company? He was one of the most prominent,
>>>> successful and relatively cash-rich American businessmen in Korea at
>>>> the time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it does ... but that is actually not one but TWO people:
>>> Walter D. Townsend *and* a David W. Deshler.
>>>
>>> For the first one see e.g. the March 23, 1897, the English page of the
>>> _Tongnip sinmun_
>>> (http://gonews.kinds.or.kr/OLD_NEWS_IMG3/DLD/DLE18970323u00_03.pdf),
>>> middle of first column: "Mr. W.D. Townsend of Chemulpo returned to his
>>> home from Japan by the Genkai." W.D. Townsend did run his trading
>>> company there, Townsend & Co. That company exported U.S. gunpowder to
>>> Korea and Japan. You may want to look for their ads in _Tongnip sinmun_.
>>>
>>> Mr. David W. Deshler--that is the "Co." in Townsend & Co.--Townsend's
>>> partner since February 1897: see here the February 27 English issue
>>> (http://gonews.kinds.or.kr/OLD_NEWS_IMG3/DLD/DLE18970227u00_02.pdf).
>>> Right-hand column, about middle: "Mr. David W. Deshler has been
>>> admitted as a partner in the firm of Townsend and Co., of Chemulpo.
>>> Mr. Deschler is from Columbus, Ohio, U.S.A."
>>>
>>> Now the British one .... that I am not at all sure about: "?? ??
>>> ??".
>>> There was an American Presbyterian missionary, Fr. Woodridge O.
>>> Johnson (1877-1949) of the Northern Presbyerian Church, a medical
>>> doctor who was in Taegu from 1897-1913 and opened the "Miguk yakpang"
>>> (American dispensary) there, the first Westener to teach Western
>>> medicine in Korea. But again, he was American, not British. In general
>>> though, his engagement would fit the description ... but this is just
>>> a wild guess. Maybe someone has a list of British nationals in Korea
>>> at the time? (E.g. in the 1984 _Korea Journal_?)
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 23:50:25 -0400
> From: "Eugene Y. Park" <epa at sas.upenn.edu>
> To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
> Subject: Re: [KS] Great Chos?n Ramie Spinning, Ltd. (??? ?? ?? ??)
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> Dear Ken,
>
> It's for "Presbyterian Church in the
> United States of America."
>
> Best,
> Gene
> ---
>
> Eugene Y. Park
> Korea Foundation Associate Professor of History
> Director, James Joo-Jin Kim Program in Korean Studies
> University of Pennsylvania
>
>
> On 5/13/2012 8:07 PM, Kenneth
> Robinson wrote:
>> To all,
>>
>> Ummm, in the previous message,
>> what does "PCUS" stand for? The
>> abbreviation does not appear in
>> earlier messages in this thread.
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Ken Robinson
>> ------------------------------------
>> From: sungoak at hotmail.com
>> To: koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws
>> Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 03:10:46 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [KS] Great Chos?n
>> Ramie Spinning, Ltd. (??? ??
>> ?? ??)
>>
>> Dear
>> Rev. Cameron Johnson left Korea
>> soon after his arrival in Seoul in
>> 1892 and worked in Japan.
>> He occasionally visited Korea. He
>> was a very conservative
>> clerical missionary of PCUS.
>> So he was not related to the
>> business in Seoul at all.
>> Best,
>> Sung Deuk Oak
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 05:04:22
>> +0200
>>> From: klaus-dittrich at gmx.de
>>> To: koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws
>>> Subject: Re: [KS] Great Chos?n
>> Ramie Spinning, Ltd. (??? ??
>> ?? ??)
>>>
>>> There was also another American
>> named Cameron Johnson, missionary
>> of the Southern Presbyterian
>> Church, arriving to Korea in
>> October 1892 and living in
>> Pyeongyang around 1897.
>>> But I doubt that missionaries
>> got involved in business
>> activities in such a
>> straightforward way.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Klaus
>>>
>>> --
>>> Klaus DITTRICH, Ph.D. ????
>> ????
>>> Assistant Professor at the
>> Department of Korean History,
>> Korea University, Seoul, South Korea
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>> Datum: Fri, 11 May 2012
>> 07:51:01 -0400
>>>> Von: Frank Hoffmann
>> <hoffmann at koreaweb.ws>
>>>> An: Korean Studies Discussion
>> List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [KS] Great Chos?n
>> Ramie Spinning, Ltd. (??? ??
>> ?? ??)
>>>
>>>>> Might "??? ???
>> (American)" refer to Walter D.
>> Townsend of The
>>>>
>>>>> American Trading Company? He
>> was one of the most prominent,
>>>>> successful and relatively
>> cash-rich American businessmen in
>> Korea at
>>>>> the time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it does ... but that is
>> actually not one but TWO people:
>>>> Walter D. Townsend *and* a
>> David W. Deshler.
>>>>
>>>> For the first one see e.g. the
>> March 23, 1897, the English page
>> of the
>>>> _Tongnip sinmun_
>>>>
>> (http://gonews.kinds.or.kr/OLD_NEWS_IMG3/DLD/DLE18970323u00_03.pdf),
>>
>>>> middle of first column: "Mr.
>> W.D. Townsend of Chemulpo returned
>> to his
>>>> home from Japan by the
>> Genkai." W.D. Townsend did run his
>> trading
>>>> company there, Townsend & Co.
>> That company exported U.S.
>> gunpowder to
>>>> Korea and Japan. You may want
>> to look for their ads in _Tongnip
>> sinmun_.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. David W. Deshler--that is
>> the "Co." in Townsend &
>> Co.--Townsend's
>>>> partner since February 1897:
>> see here the February 27 English
>> issue
>>>>
>> (http://gonews.kinds.or.kr/OLD_NEWS_IMG3/DLD/DLE18970227u00_02.pdf).
>>
>>>> Right-hand column, about
>> middle: "Mr. David W. Deshler has
>> been
>>>> admitted as a partner in the
>> firm of Townsend and Co., of
>> Chemulpo.
>>>> Mr. Deschler is from Columbus,
>> Ohio, U.S.A."
>>>>
>>>> Now the British one .... that
>> I am not at all sure about: "?? ??
>>>> ??".
>>>> There was an American
>> Presbyterian missionary, Fr.
>> Woodridge O.
>>>> Johnson (1877-1949) of the
>> Northern Presbyerian Church, a
>> medical
>>>> doctor who was in Taegu from
>> 1897-1913 and opened the "Miguk
>> yakpang"
>>>> (American dispensary) there,
>> the first Westener to teach Western
>>>> medicine in Korea. But again,
>> he was American, not British. In
>> general
>>>> though, his engagement would
>> fit the description ... but this
>> is just
>>>> a wild guess. Maybe someone
>> has a list of British nationals in
>> Korea
>>>> at the time? (E.g. in the 1984
>> _Korea Journal_?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>> kostenlosem Smartphone!
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> Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 13:49:34 +0900
> From: "BJ" <joinau at chollian.net>
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