[KS] tokto

Fri Oct 12 22:02:28 EDT 2012

Dear Dr. Kevin Shepard,

Thank you for speaking out.

I wonder if you can still maintain your neutrality after reading these,
both published by the U.S. Government, your employer.

1.
Asiatic Pilot: East coast of Siberia, Sakhalin Island and Korea  United
States Hydrographic Office under the authority of the secretary of the  Navy

 Washington, Government Printing Office, 1909

2.

SOURCE: U.S. National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency,
http://www.geographic.org/geographic_names/name.php?uni=-995298&fid=3444&c=south_korea

Yoo Kwang-On

Shep<kevin_shepard at yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Now wouldn't it be great for morale on both sides of the DMZ and/or
> the East China Sea and for all us in the Korean and China fields if
> they joined in giving a unified, world-wide plea on the issue?"
>
> No. Because I, and I hope others, in the Korean and China fields are in
> these fields as neutral, critical scholars, rather than cheerleaders who
> need a morale boost through an act that would further, unnecessarily,
> undermine regional cooperation. Please don't speak for others - at least,
> don't speak for me.
>
>
> Kevin Shepard, Ph.D.
> Strategist
> UNC/CFC/USFK
>
>
>
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>    1. Tokto (gkl1 at columbia.edu <http://mc/compose?to=gkl1@columbia.edu>)
>    2. Re: Tokto (J.Scott Burgeson)
>    3. Re: Tokto (McCann, David)
>    4. Seminar on the Zainichi Author Lee Hoe-sung at Australian
>       National University (Frank Joseph Shulman)
>    5. Re: Tokto (King, Ross)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:38:35 -0400
> From: gkl1 at columbia.edu <http://mc/compose?to=gkl1@columbia.edu>
> To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws<http://mc/compose?to=koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws>
> >
> Subject: [KS] Tokto
> Message-ID: <20121010163835.tzlwf6b4pw0ow8os at cubmail.cc.columbia.edu<http://mc/compose?to=20121010163835.tzlwf6b4pw0ow8os@cubmail.cc.columbia.edu>
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> Thanks to Yoo Kwang-On, we get frequent updates on the Tokto
> situation. Seoul keeps hitting the issue, and in P'yongyang they've
> also been pushing in their own famous style. A week or so ago the NY
> Times (finally!) had a piece on the island squabble, but it wasn't
> anywhere near as good as the one the Washington Post put out a day or
> two ago.
>
> Now wouldn't it be great for morale on both sides of the DMZ and/or
> the East China Sea and for all us in the Korean and China fields if
> they joined in giving a unified, world-wide plea on the issue? The
> basic facts are held in common.
>
> Today, the Republic of China (Taiwan) bought a full page add in the
> New York Times on the Diaoyu problem, laying out a well produced and
> documented statement with an excellent, convincing mix of historical
> and legal facts. On Sept. 28, the PRC had bought a TWO-page add in the
> Times with pretty much the same facts but without the sophistication
> and clarity of the Taiwan presentation, which did not mention that
> both Taiwan and the PRC claimed the island. It's great, because
> whatever happens in the future between the two Chinese republics, the
> Daiyu islands will end up in China.
>
> Now, if the ROK and the DPRK could put together on Tokto a cogent
> statement with the presentational excellence of the Taiwan display,
> and  buy a Times page or two, wouldn't that wake up a lot of folks in
> the Korean peninsula and around the world! The fact is, the USA was
> involved in both the Diaoyutai and Tokto issues after the Pacific War
> and are not without some responsibility for the tragic mis-allocation
> of these islands. Americans in general should be made more aware of
> the facts. And yet, the US government keeps hiding behind a so-called
> neutral stance.
>
> Gari Ledyard
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:16:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "J.Scott Burgeson" <jsburgeson at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jsburgeson@yahoo.com>
> >
> To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws<http://mc/compose?to=koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws>
> >
> Subject: Re: [KS] Tokto
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> --- On?Wed, 10/10/12,?gkl1 at columbia.edu<http://mc/compose?to=gkl1@columbia.edu>
> ?<gkl1 at columbia.edu <http://mc/compose?to=gkl1@columbia.edu>>?wrote:
> It's great, because whatever happens in the future between the two Chinese
> republics, the Daiyu islands will end up in China.
>
> Wow. Is this a forum for objective scholarly debate, or unabashed
> agitprop? I am sure that any disinterested historian recognizes that the
> Senkaku/Diaoyu issue in particular is hardly?cut-and-dried. Before leaping
> to any conclusions, it would be nice to see what sorts of evidence and/or
> arguments form the basis for the above assertion, which strikes this reader
> as an implicit endorsement of Chinese territorial aggression.
> Paid newspaper advertisements and government announcements are all fine
> and well, but certainly not sufficient, especially on a forum such as this
> one.
> --Scott Bug?
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> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 08:41:02 -0400
> From: "McCann, David" <dmccann at fas.harvard.edu<http://mc/compose?to=dmccann@fas.harvard.edu>
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> While they are at it, let's hope somebody thinks to point out the
> difference in the names for the place.  Korean Tokdo means "Lone Island,"
> which it is.  Takeshima, which means "bamboo Island," and which it is not,
> would suggest no one had been there from Japan, or knew  what it looked
> like.
>
> David McCann
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 10, 2012, at 8:42 PM, "gkl1 at columbia.edu<http://mc/compose?to=gkl1@columbia.edu>"
> <gkl1 at columbia.edu <http://mc/compose?to=gkl1@columbia.edu>> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to Yoo Kwang-On, we get frequent updates on the Tokto
> > situation. Seoul keeps hitting the issue, and in P'yongyang they've
> > also been pushing in their own famous style. A week or so ago the NY
> > Times (finally!) had a piece on the island squabble, but it wasn't
> > anywhere near as good as the one the Washington Post put out a day or
> > two ago.
> >
> > Now wouldn't it be great for morale on both sides of the DMZ and/or
> > the East China Sea and for all us in the Korean and China fields if
> > they joined in giving a unified, world-wide plea on the issue? The
> > basic facts are held in common.
> >
> > Today, the Republic of China (Taiwan) bought a full page add in the
> > New York Times on the Diaoyu problem, laying out a well produced and
> > documented statement with an excellent, convincing mix of historical
> > and legal facts. On Sept. 28, the PRC had bought a TWO-page add in the
> > Times with pretty much the same facts but without the sophistication
> > and clarity of the Taiwan presentation, which did not mention that
> > both Taiwan and the PRC claimed the island. It's great, because
> > whatever happens in the future between the two Chinese republics, the
> > Daiyu islands will end up in China.
> >
> > Now, if the ROK and the DPRK could put together on Tokto a cogent
> > statement with the presentational excellence of the Taiwan display,
> > and  buy a Times page or two, wouldn't that wake up a lot of folks in
> > the Korean peninsula and around the world! The fact is, the USA was
> > involved in both the Diaoyutai and Tokto issues after the Pacific War
> > and are not without some responsibility for the tragic mis-allocation
> > of these islands. Americans in general should be made more aware of
> > the facts. And yet, the US government keeps hiding behind a so-called
> > neutral stance.
> >
> > Gari Ledyard
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:28:38 +0000
> From: Frank Joseph Shulman <fshulman at umd.edu<http://mc/compose?to=fshulman@umd.edu>
> >
> To: "koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws<http://mc/compose?to=koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws>"
> <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws<http://mc/compose?to=koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws>
> >
> Subject: [KS] Seminar on the Zainichi Author Lee Hoe-sung at
>     Australian National University
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> From: asia_news-bounces at anu.edu.au<http://mc/compose?to=asia_news-bounces@anu.edu.au>[
> asia_news-bounces at anu.edu.au<http://mc/compose?to=asia_news-bounces@anu.edu.au>]
> on behalf of Duck-Young Lee [Duck.Lee at anu.edu.au<http://mc/compose?to=Duck.Lee@anu.edu.au>
> ]
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:18 AM
> Subject: [Asia_news] Reminder - Japanese Studies Seminar Series, Tomorrow
> 12:30 Friday 12 Oct
>
> ----------------------
>
> A seminar in the Japanese Studies Seminar Series
>
> by Matthew Todd
>
> 12:30pm - 01:30pm
> 12 October 2012
> Seminar Room E3.43; 3F, BPB (Build #110)
>
> "The Repatriation Boat: the personal and the political in the early work
> of Lee Hoe-sung"
>
> In 1971, Lee Hoe-sung (1935-) became the first ethnically non-Japanese
> author to win the coveted Akutagawa Prize. His win marked a shift in the
> Japanese literary canon, seeing the creation of a space allowing the
> exploration of postcolonial identity in post-war Japan. ?e Kenzabur?,
> winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature, once described him as ?a writer
> who expresses the experiences and thoughts of the Koreans in the Japanese
> language?.
>
> Lee was born on the island of Sakhalin in 1935. His early life is notable
> for its constant movement - Sakhalin was returned to the USSR in 1945,
> forcing Lee and his family to be moved to Hakodate, and later, Sapporo.
> Entering university, Lee became a part of the Korean student activist
> movement that advocated the return to North Korea for all Koreans living in
> Japan after the Pacific War. His work draws heavily on these personal
> experiences, telling the Korean story as a counter to the Japanese grand
> narrative.
>
> In this seminar, I will explore several early works by Lee, examining the
> ways in which he constructs a subaltern identity through his work- a
> postcolonial, minority identity in the face of the Japanese norm. I will
> focus particularly on the ways in which Lee hijacks traditional Japanese
> literary forms to create a hybrid literature that occupies a unique space
> in the Japanese canon.
>
> Works discussed in detail will include: "Towards our youth" (??????????:
> 1969); "Things left behind by the dead" (????????: 1970); and For Kayako
> (???????: 1970).
>
> -----------------------
>
> Duck-Young Lee, PhD
> Japan & Linguistics
> Building #110
> School of Culture, History and Language
> College of Asia and the Pacific Studies
> Australian National University
> Canberra, ACT 0200
>
> Phone: +61 2 6125 3205
> Email: Duck.Lee at anu.edu.au <http://mc/compose?to=Duck.Lee@anu.edu.au>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:24:27 +0000
> From: "King, Ross" <Ross.King at ubc.ca<http://mc/compose?to=Ross.King@ubc.ca>
> >
> To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws<http://mc/compose?to=koreanstudies@koreaweb.ws>
> >
> Subject: Re: [KS] Tokto
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> It is indeed a 'Lone Island', but etymologically the "tok" is a native
> Korean dialect version of the word for 'rock' (tol)--the "tok" shape shows
> up in various Korean dialects.
> So originally this was almost certainly just "toks?m" "Rock Island" (which
> it also is), subsequently hanja-ified by translating s?m to Sino-Korean TO
> and leaving "tok" as a phonogram with a hanja with suitable semantics.
>
> Ross King
>
> While they are at it, let's hope somebody thinks to point out the
> difference in the names for the place.  Korean Tokdo means "Lone Island,"
> which it is.  Takeshima, which means "bamboo Island," and which it is not,
> would suggest no one had been there from Japan, or knew  what it looked
> like.
>
> David McCann
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 10, 2012, at 8:42 PM, "gkl1 at columbia.edu<http://mc/compose?to=gkl1@columbia.edu>"
> <gkl1 at columbia.edu <http://mc/compose?to=gkl1@columbia.edu>> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to Yoo Kwang-On, we get frequent updates on the Tokto
> > situation. Seoul keeps hitting the issue, and in P'yongyang they've
> > also been pushing in their own famous style. A week or so ago the NY
> > Times (finally!) had a piece on the island squabble, but it wasn't
> > anywhere near as good as the one the Washington Post put out a day or
> > two ago.
> >
> > Now wouldn't it be great for morale on both sides of the DMZ and/or
> > the East China Sea and for all us in the Korean and China fields if
> > they joined in giving a unified, world-wide plea on the issue? The
> > basic facts are held in common.
> >
> > Today, the Republic of China (Taiwan) bought a full page add in the
> > New York Times on the Diaoyu problem, laying out a well produced and
> > documented statement with an excellent, convincing mix of historical
> > and legal facts. On Sept. 28, the PRC had bought a TWO-page add in the
> > Times with pretty much the same facts but without the sophistication
> > and clarity of the Taiwan presentation, which did not mention that
> > both Taiwan and the PRC claimed the island. It's great, because
> > whatever happens in the future between the two Chinese republics, the
> > Daiyu islands will end up in China.
> >
> > Now, if the ROK and the DPRK could put together on Tokto a cogent
> > statement with the presentational excellence of the Taiwan display,
> > and  buy a Times page or two, wouldn't that wake up a lot of folks in
> > the Korean peninsula and around the world! The fact is, the USA was
> > involved in both the Diaoyutai and Tokto issues after the Pacific War
> > and are not without some responsibility for the tragic mis-allocation
> > of these islands. Americans in general should be made more aware of
> > the facts. And yet, the US government keeps hiding behind a so-called
> > neutral stance.
> >
> > Gari Ledyard
> >
> >
> >
>
> End of Koreanstudies Digest, Vol 112, Issue 11
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