[KS] Answers about Pyongyang

don kirk kirkdon at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 24 11:53:16 EDT 2012

For sure. Very interesting. I wonder if visitors still have to offer flowers at their feet even while they're covered up.
Don Kirk

--- On Mon, 9/24/12, Ruediger Frank <ruediger.frank at univie.ac.at> wrote:

From: Ruediger Frank <ruediger.frank at univie.ac.at>
Subject: Re: [KS] Answers about Pyongyang
To: "Korean Studies Discussion List" <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
Date: Monday, September 24, 2012, 11:40 AM

The two statues on Mansudae Hill have been covered in white cloth on Sept. 11th and are undergoing "renovation". This is a bit unusual as the new statues were only unveiled in April. In addition to the spectacles and the smile, the new statue of the Eternal President also got a Western suit. We can speculate forever what exactly that means, but I am pretty sure it means something. 
Rudiger Frank

on Montag, 24. September 2012 at 16:17 you wrote:

If the Revolution Museum is up there on Mansudae, I missed it. Besides touring the History Museum on KIS Square, I visited (for the third or fourth time), the Patriotic Victorious Liberation Struggle Museum (I'm pretty sure that's not a totally accurate rendition of the name, but you get the idea). It was not, however, on Mansudae or KIS Square. Somewhere else.. Incidentally, it's passe to talk about the KIS statue on Mansudae. That statue is gone, no one knows where. It's been replaced by a somewhat smaller KIS statue showing the Great Leader bespectacled, with a slightly pleasant smile, next to a statue of equal height of KJI. KJI was considerably shorter than his father, but the statues don't let on.
Don Kirk

--- On Mon, 9/24/12, BJ <joinau at chollian.net> wrote:

From: BJ <joinau at chollian.net>
Subject: Re: [KS] Answers about Pyongyang
To: "'Korean Studies Discussion List'" <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
Date: Monday, September 24, 2012, 9:49 AM
Dear Don,
There might be a misunderstanding, indeed, because it is quite complicated !
If I understood it correctly, and if information found and provided are right, there are two different museums here: 
-         Korean (Central) History Museum: located originally on Moran Hill, close to Ulmil Pavilion, under the name of State Museum of History, it was moved in 1977 to its present location on KIS Square (visited and mentioned below by Don). 
-         The National Central Museum of the Liberation Struggle was set up on August 1, 1948. It was renamed the Korean Revolution Museum in January 1961 and placed on Kim Il Sung Square (according to information provided by Chris Springer. It is not sure where it was located before that). It was moved to its present location on Mansudae behind KIS statue in 1972. 
The Korean History Museum was said to be closed for renovation the two times I visited (2008 and 2010). But as noted, of course, it doesn’t mean it was really closed.  A contrario, it doesn’t mean it wasn’t: I was told Korean Art Gallery was closed for renovation at the same time, and apparently it was, since it reopened in 2010. A lot of cultural sites have undergone full renovation in the 2000’s and I was interested in listing them: Moranbong Theatre, Taedongmun Cinema, Pyongyang Grand Theatre, etc. It is quite interesting to follow the priorities set by the regime for Pyongyang development and refurbishment. 
Benjamin JOINAU 
Yongsan-gu Itaewon-dong 119-28 
140-200 Seoul, South Korea 
Tel/fax : (822) 795-2465 
Cell phone : (82) 10-8905-0696 
E-mail : joinau at chollian.net 
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There may be some misunderstanding here. The Korean History Museum is now on Kim Il Sung Square, filling almost one entire side. I've been told on at least two visits that's what it is and was taken on a walk-through in July. It does not cover the Korean War and is not much about revolutionary struggle. Exhibits begin with archeological remains, birth of Tangun (of course!) and move through the millennia. At least that's what I saw when I visited for an hour or so, with minder, in July. I would have liked to have stayed longer, but that's how guided tours are. (Speaking of western-style resfaurants, a coffee shop on the corner almost next to the museum, nearest the river, offers Austrian -- or anyway European -- coffee and cake at Seoul-coffee-shop prices.)
Don Kirk

--- On Sun, 9/23/12, BJ <joinau at chollian.net> wrote:

From: BJ <joinau at chollian.net>
Subject: [KS] Answers about Pyongyang
To: "'Korean Studies Discussion List'" <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
Date: Sunday, September 23, 2012, 12:22 PM 
Dear List members,
I’d like once again to thank you all for your many answers to my questions about Pyongyang.
Since they came in many posts, sometimes in private messages and could be of interest for some members, I have listed them below.
Please note that these informations are mostly indicative and are often hypothetical. Just pieces of a puzzle…

Questions about Pyongyang

1.       Korean Central History Museum : it used to be on Moran Hill before 1977 (it is said to have opened there in 1945). Where was it located ?è Called “State Museum of History”, it was located on Moral Hill close to Ulmil Pavillion up to 1977.
2.       It was closed for renovation until recently. Has it reopened? è Yes – date of reopening unknown (was it really closed for renovation? That’s what I had been told in 2009).
3.       Korean Revolution Museum : before being behind the Grand Monument of Mansudae (1972), where was it located? It was supposed to be founded in 1948 under the name of Central State Museum of the Liberation Fight (I translate from French). è  The National Central Museum of the Liberation Struggle was set up on August 1, 1948. It was renamed the Korean Revolution Museum in January 1961 and placed on Kim Il Sung Square. (It is not sure where it was located before that).
4.       The Korea Art Gallery had been closed for “renovations” for years. When has it reopened? (If it has). Was it opened first in 1954 or 1960? è It reopened after renovations in 2010.
5.       Victorious Fatherland Liberation War Museum : it is said to have opened initially in August 1953, but before being rebuilt in its actual location in 1974, where was it located? è It was located on Haebangsan, in what is now the Party area.
6.       Chris Springer says that the Three-Revolutions Exhibition opened in 1993 (I have 1992 in another source…), on the site of a former “exhibition”. Does anybody know what kind of exhibition it was ?è The former exhibition was the "Exhibition of Achievements of Socialist Construction."
7.       Was the USS Pueblo moved from Wonsan to Pyongyang in 1999? (I found different dates). è Moved from Wonsan in 1999, moved back temporarily in 2002, and then back again to Pyongyang.
8.       Does anybody know where are located the fast food restaurant, the new Italian restaurant and the micro-brewery? èThere are two "fast food" restaurants -- though there are five known establishments in Pyongyang in which you can get a hamburger (if you count Air Koryo). There are also two Italian restaurants. There at least 5 different beer breweries. 
9.       Does anybody know the date of construction of Mansudae Art Studio? And why it was named this way despite the fact that it is not in Mansudae area? è Created in 1959; location  unknown. “Their signature project is the Mansudae Grand Monument, the huge statue of Kim Il Sung” (C. Springer) : the reason for the name? (although the Grand Monument was opened in 1972…)
10.   When was the Kim Il Sung Stadium first built (before the extensions and renovations of the 1970’s and 1980’s, when it was still called the Moranbong Stadium)? è rebuilt in 1954, on a previous sports field.
11.   From when the site of Anhak palace in Taesong area has been “discovered” and opened to the public? è excavations took place under KIS. Apparently not opened to the public.
12.   When did the so-called mausoleum or tomb of Tangun open to the public: 1993 or 1994? è 11th October 1994.
New reference:
Roger Mateos Miret with Jelena Prokopljevic: Corea del Norte, Utopía de hormigón. Arquitectura y urbanismo al servicio de una ideología.Brenes, Spain 2012 (Munoz Moya Editores). (thanks to Prof. Dege).
For information, since I didn’t explain at first the reason of my questions:
I have just worked on a diachronic reading of the imaginary of Pyongyang's urban planning and the way the ideology and the regime’s mythology are staged in the city itself (what I call a “topo-mythanalysis“). It was the first part of a research about the regimes of visibility in cities (comparison Pyongyang-Seoul). The article about the topo-mythanalysis has been written and translated, it will be presented at the World Conference of Korean Studies in Seoul this week. My approach follows a cultural anthropology methodology (Durand). The article has been published in French in the journal Croisements (April 2012) and will hopefully be published next year in English.
Benjamin JOINAU
Yongsan-gu Itaewon-dong 119-28
140-200 Seoul, South Korea
Tel/fax : (822) 795-2465
Cell phone : (82) 10-8905-0696
E-mail : joinau at chollian.net  

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