[KS] Koreanstudies Digest, Vol 121, Issue 29

Sun Jul 21 05:21:59 EDT 2013

1) To Prof. Muller,
The elder brother of Shim Jae-ryong;  Shim Jae-gi, who was the director of
the National Institute of the Korean Language, must encourage you to
support the new system. It should be late 1999 when the outline of RR 2000
was almost formulated.
I will subscribe your dictionary as you introduced.

2) To Prof. Choe,
You wrote "I have been told repeatedly that the Koreans, if nothing else,
are intensely nationalistic. If so, why in the world so many Yi (or I), Pak
(or Bag), and others are so eager to identify themselves with Western
names, such as Lee, Park, and others."
According to my [Sang-Oak Lee's] extensive inspection to the historical
documents and books in 2011,
Lee and Park started to appear only after the 1945/Liberation probably by
the influence of GI English.
Before the Liberation Ni, Ye, Yi & Pak were detected.
Is it intensely nationalistic?????
However, Rhee was used by the nationalistic President as you said.

Sang-Oak Lee

2013/7/17 <koreanstudies-request at koreanstudies.com>

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> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:35:58 +0900
> From: Charles Muller <acmuller at l.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
> To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreanstudies.com>
> Subject: Re: [KS] RR romanization
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> Dear Sang-Oak,
>
> > [Chuck] So I've been writing in RR since 1998 or so, and now my
> > dictionaries contain almost 100,000 entries in
> > total, where RR is used for the Korean.------ [Sang-Oak] The six-member
> > committee met about 10 times only in 1999 and announced its result in
> 2000.
> > I don't know who you met around that time and in 1998 the outline of
> > 2000 RR was not formulated.
>
> I could be off by a year. The main formal event I have in mind was a
> Japan-Korean friendship conference held at Shimane prefectural
> university, which I though was in 1998, but perhaps it was later than
> that. Around that time, a few members of the committee, most of whose
> names I can't remember (but one was the younger brother of Shim
> Jae-ryong; I think his name is Shim Jae-gi, or something like that)
> came, and in the discussions, I was encouraged to support the new
> system. I also met some other members informally in Seoul around that
> time. I had previously been using the prior government-supported system,
> which used final  b/d/g instead of p/t/k.
>
> > Please give me an access address of
> > your dictionary.
>
> There are two dictionaries:
>
> (1) Classical Chinese dictionary http://www.buddhism-dict.net/dealt
> (2) Buddhist Terms dictionary http://www.buddhism-dict.net/ddb
>
> Most major universities in the West have institutional subscriptions,
> but I see that SNU does not.
> (http://www.buddhism-dict.net/ddb/subscribing_libraries.html) In that
> case, you can do 10 searches a day using "guest" as the user ID, leaving
> the password field blank.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chuck
>
> ---------------------------
> A. Charles Muller
>
> Graduate School of Humanities and Sociology
> Faculty of Letters
> University of Tokyo
> 7-3-1 Hong?, Bunky?-ku
> Tokyo 113-8654, Japan
>
> Office Phone: 03-5841-3735
>
> Web Site: Resources for East Asian Language and Thought
> http://www.acmuller.net
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:58:40 -1000
> From: Yong-Ho Choe <choeyh at hawaii.edu>
> To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreanstudies.com>
> Subject: Re: [KS] RR romanization
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> With all the attention given to the romanization of Korean family names, I
> am wondering one question.
>
> I have been told repeatedly that the Koreans, if nothing else, are
> intensely nationalistic. If so, why in the world so many Yi (or I), Pak (or
> Bag), and others are so eager to identify themselves with Western names,
> such as Lee, Park, and others.
>
> Yong-ho
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Charles Muller <acmuller at l.u-tokyo.ac.jp
> >wrote:
>
> > Dear Sang-Oak,
> >
> >  [Chuck] So I've been writing in RR since 1998 or so, and now my
> >> dictionaries contain almost 100,000 entries in
> >> total, where RR is used for the Korean.------ [Sang-Oak] The six-member
> >> committee met about 10 times only in 1999 and announced its result in
> >> 2000.
> >> I don't know who you met around that time and in 1998 the outline of
> >> 2000 RR was not formulated.
> >>
> >
> > I could be off by a year. The main formal event I have in mind was a
> > Japan-Korean friendship conference held at Shimane prefectural
> university,
> > which I though was in 1998, but perhaps it was later than that. Around
> that
> > time, a few members of the committee, most of whose names I can't
> remember
> > (but one was the younger brother of Shim Jae-ryong; I think his name is
> > Shim Jae-gi, or something like that) came, and in the discussions, I was
> > encouraged to support the new system. I also met some other members
> > informally in Seoul around that time. I had previously been using the
> prior
> > government-supported system, which used final  b/d/g instead of p/t/k.
> >
> >  Please give me an access address of
> >> your dictionary.
> >>
> >
> > There are two dictionaries:
> >
> > (1) Classical Chinese dictionary http://www.buddhism-dict.net/**dealt<
> http://www.buddhism-dict.net/dealt>
> > (2) Buddhist Terms dictionary http://www.buddhism-dict.net/**ddb<
> http://www.buddhism-dict.net/ddb>
> >
> > Most major universities in the West have institutional subscriptions, but
> > I see that SNU does not. (http://www.buddhism-dict.net/**
> > ddb/subscribing_libraries.html<
> http://www.buddhism-dict.net/ddb/subscribing_libraries.html>
> > **) In that case, you can do 10 searches a day using "guest" as the user
> > ID, leaving the password field blank.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > ---------------------------
> > A. Charles Muller
> >
> > Graduate School of Humanities and Sociology
> > Faculty of Letters
> > University of Tokyo
> > 7-3-1 Hong?, Bunky?-ku
> > Tokyo 113-8654, Japan
> >
> > Office Phone: 03-5841-3735
> >
> > Web Site: Resources for East Asian Language and Thought
> > http://www.acmuller.net
> >
> >
> >
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이상억 Sang-Oak Lee/www.sangoak.com
Prof. Emeritus, Dep't of Korean
College of Humanities, Seoul Nat'l Univ.
Seoul 151-745, Korea
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