Donald Baker ubcdbaker at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 30 20:07:21 EDT 2015

I appreciate the warning from Frank. Otherwise, I would have downloaded El Capitan today.

I have found one work-around for the problems mentioned by Clark when using 漢字 in the latest version of MS Word.  I also have Nisus Writer on my Mac.  I type the 漢字 in Nisus and then copy and paste into Word.  I wonder if that will work in El Capitan as well or if even Nisus will get messed up by this new system.


> On Oct 1, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Baker, Edward <ejbaker at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
> Dear All,
> Thank you, Frank, for the warning about updating to El Capitan. I do use 한글 과 漢字 on my MacBook and would really be upset to lose them. It would be great if we could all try to keep each other informed of what is happening with this.
> Thanks,
> Ed
>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Frank Hoffmann <hoffmann at koreanstudies.com> wrote:
>> Dear All:
>> A good number of you might use Macs.
>> This is my warning to you to NOT to update to the new Mac OS X "El 
>> Capitan," to be released in a few hours. "El Capitan" (10.11)  follows 
>> the present "Yosemite." Unless you hear otherwise and have confirmed 
>> that below issues have been fixed, I strongly suggest to wait with any 
>> update -- that is, if you also use Han'gŭl and Hanja in your texts.
>> I have not see the FINAL release, only the last pre-release (last 
>> public beta). But there is no indication, no note anywhere that these 
>> issues are fixed.
>> In many of your programs (applies to all Microsoft Office programs such 
>> as MS Word, both MS Word for Mac 2011 and the new Word 2016) you 
>> (a) get problems writing more than one syllable in Han'gŭl ... the 2nd 
>> syllable will of a word will show some bogus letters (so you have to 
>> delete that, and re-write that 2nd syllable as if it where the first of 
>> a word)
>> (b) Hanja does not work at all in MS Word and Office programs (and 
>> many other programs) 
>> (c) when opening an existing text with Han'gŭl and/or Hanja and then 
>> save that (e.g. after an edit), you will find irreversible 
>> (un-correctable), unwanted spaces after NUMBERS; for example: "2015 年" 
>> instead of "2015年"
>> In other older and very new program versions this all works fine, but 
>> as I mentioned, not so in MS Word, Excel, and others. It may thus be a 
>> smart idea to wait with any OS update until you know this has been 
>> fixed.
>> Best,
>> Frank
>> --------------------------------------
>> Frank Hoffmann
>> http://koreanstudies.com

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