[KS] Qing–Chosŏn royal exchanges or marriages?

[Kirk Larsen]

I agree with Adam's answers to Frank's queries here!

I will note, however, the interesting cases of Princess Ŭisun, who was
adopted by Hyojong so she could be married to Dorgon (who ruled more or
less as regent for the Shunzhi Emperor) and "Imperial Noble Consort Shujia"
who was from a Korean clan that joined the Manchus probably around the 1636
invasion of Chosŏn and was married to the then prince but future Qianlong
Emperor. Not exactly royal intermarriages but probably worth noting
nonetheless.

Cheers,

Kirk Larsen

On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 8:30 PM Adam Bohnet <abohnet at uwo.ca> wrote:

> First answer, as for Korea: No. There were no members of the Qing royal
> family who staid in Choson. There were also no royal intermarriages. Also
> none under the Ming. The Koreans who became part of the palace complex were
> not royal. The closest to Ming imperial women in Choson were some refugees
> that the Qing allowed to live in Choson after 1645. They were not, however,
> intermarried with the Ming court.
>
> Check out Rawski - there were royal intermarriages between the Aisin Gioro
> family and Mongol princes. I guess it depends on what you mean by outside
> the country. But yes, the Aisin Gioro royal house did intermarry with
> Mongols, quite deliberately.  Mongol princes spoke in Manchu to avoid being
> overheard by their inferiors, according I think to Evelyn Rawski's book on
> Qing emperors. I would check out that book, by the way, for such answers.
>
> As for three - I don't think so. I have never heard of such a case (again,
> unless you are including Mongolia, and Xinjiang and Tibet, in which case,
> possibly? I think you will need to consult with Qing historians for that,
> to be certain.
>
> Yours,
>
> Adam
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Koreanstudies <koreanstudies-bounces at koreanstudies.com> On Behalf
> Of Frank Hoffmann
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 8:02 PM
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> Subject: [KS] Qing–Chosŏn royal exchanges or marriages?
>
> Dear All:
>
> Apologies, but I seem to have forgotten if I never even came across any
> information about the following issue. Maybe someone has a definitive
> answer?
>
> I am aware that Crown Prince Sohyŏn spent many years in what is now
> Shenyang—albeit under forced circumstances. However, what I'm actually
> curious about is whether, during Qing times, there were any instances of
> royal intermarriages occurring "in the other direction," whereby members of
> the Manchu Chinese royal family found themselves residing in Korea.
> Alternatively, were there any cases, aside from the usual diplomatic
> delegations and travel, of members of the Qing royal family living in Korea
> or other Asian countries for reasons beyond these traditional activities?
>
> Thanks!
> Frank
>
>
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