[KS] Re: where are the historians

[Timothy Savage]

If it makes you feel any better, Jay, I gave an interview to CNBC last 
night, which I believe is primarily watched by the foreign business 
community in Asia.  When the interviewer said that John Bolton after his 
talks with the Chinese was more pessimistic than ever that a solution could 
be found, I argued that that was a good thing, because it showed that 
Bolton's visit was a last-ditch effort by the hawks in Washington to get the 
Chinese and South Koreans to go along with a sanctions policy, and now that 
it's failed the pro-engagement forces will get their crack at it.  I also 
pointed out that the six-party format is likely to put as much pressure on 
the U.S. as on the North Koreans to bargain in good faith, and I refused to 
take the bait when the reporter said that Bolton thinks KJI is not someone 
you can do business with.  In any case, for the few people who heard it, I 
hope I gave them a bit different perspective than they usually get from the 
barking dogs in Washington.

Tim Savage

>From: Jay Lewis <JayatAKS49 at netscape.net>
>Subject: Re: [KS] even literature types

>
>David, the `literary type', is willing to speak out; why not the rest of
>us?  Where the hell have we been?  Lest we forget, the success of evil
>is only dependent on the willingness of good men to say nothing.  We're
>pathetic, aren't we?
>
>Particularly the historians.  Where are we?  After all, historians study
>the past in order to predict the future, right?  And there are a lot of
>us, right?  Or, do I have some wires crossed about our disciplines and
>why we do what we do?  Is it for tenure or for the maintenance of
>civilization?
>The barking dogs (Wolfowitz, Rove, etc.) are a dime-a-dozen, but the
>trend is where?  Where are we going? Certainly, the `collapse soon'
>crowd are too stupid, since they seem to know nothing of Korean history;
>not even of the Korean War.  You know, the Korean people, north and
>south, are tenacious.  Forgot that one, didn't you George?  But maybe
>not.  Germany collapsed in a fortnight.  Would the DPRK?  Maybe the
>Mercedes Benzs and the fabulous parties will bring down the DPRK.  But,
>what do we say?  Do we leave this discussion to the CIA hacks and their
>idiot analysts?  The same fools who brought us Afghanistan and Iraq, and
>who are lining up to target Syria or Iran?  There option is bombing.
>  What do we do?  Where is the intellectual debate?  Are we spineless?
>  I'm nearly sick to my stomach at the 
>silence...............................
>

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