[KS] Koreanstudies Digest, Vol 102, Issue 33
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Sat Dec 10 05:46:44 EST 2011
"Yontan" briquettes are not made from charcoal. They are made from a mixture
of soft coal (locally mined) which is ground into a fine powder and mixed
with a clay powder. The clay is added to create the yontan-shaped cinder
that is discarded after the coal is burned up. The coal-clay powder mixture
is thoroughly blended and then compressed in a steel cylinder form with bars
where the holes will be by a high pressure piston that creates into the
multi-hole "briquettes" that we all know.
.
There are still many places using yontan, especially in small shops,
construction site temporary office structures, warehouse offices and homes
of the poor. The English language "charcoal" briquette has always created
confusion as to the real content of "yontan."
.
Charcoal, however, was often used to start the yontan burning when the cycle
of two-tier stacking of briquettes (with the lower one firing the upper one)
was allowed to extinguish.
.
Peter Bartholomew
.
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Today's Topics:
1. What is the history and use of charcoal in South Korea?
(Knigel Holmes)
2. Re: General Sherman Incident (Joy Kim)
3. Re: Help with North Korean song identification (Joy Kim)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 14:15:59 +0900
From: Knigel Holmes <i at knigel.com>
To: koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws
Subject: [KS] What is the history and use of charcoal in South Korea?
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Thank you all for helping me with finding out if the myth behind the
Tancheon (The Stream of Charcoal) was actual Korean folklore. I have,
unexpectedly, become obsessed with charcoal. I hadn't realised how
much charcoal was, and continues to be, used in Korean society. I've
been learning about the charcoal kiln saunas, "white charcoal',
charcoal air fresheners, and lumps of charcoal over gates to fend off
evil spirits from birthing women; however, I'm having a bit of trouble
finding out some of the other historic details in English about
charcoal. I'm wondering if any of the anthropologists, or anyone else,
could direct me to some history or folklore on charcoal in Korean
society. I'm interested in any tidbit or fascinating fact. I
appreciate your help a lot.
Kindness,
Knigel
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 00:10:10 -0800
From: Joy Kim <joykim at usc.edu>
To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
Cc: SUN KIM <sun_20765 at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [KS] General Sherman Incident
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Dear List,
I forwarded the discussions on this thread to a library patron who had
inquired about General Sherman before. She wishes to contribute some
additional information based on her family history, so I am forwarding her
message to the list.
Joy Kim
Curator, Korean Heritage Library
East Asian Library
University of Southern California
University Park
Los Angeles, CA90089-1825
Tel: 213-740-2329 or 213-740-2535
Fax: 213-740-7437
http://www.usc.edu/korea
http://libguides.usc.edu/korea
----- Original Message -----
From: SUN KIM <sun_20765 at msn.com>
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2011 5:18 pm
Subject: General Sherman Incident
To: joykim at usc.edu
>
> Dear Joy,
>
> Thank you for sending the discussion threads on General Sherman
> Incident. There were a couple of articles that I did not know
> about before.
>
> You had asked me if I want to contribute any information to the
> discussion. I?d like to point out that my statements are based on
> bits of pieces that I overheard during family meetings when I was
> young (I?ll refer it as a local story). I also did additional
> researches on the internet. Whether it?s family or local people
> gatherings, children was not allowed into the room at the beginning
> of discussion. From what I can gather, when previous older
> generation of Pyung Yang residents met, they identify themselves by
> which side their family was on during THE BATTLE. It would be
> great to interview these older generations (over 80 years old) to
> find out more about this. They are very reluctant to talk about
> it?I believe it has something to do with Kim Il Sung?s family.
>
> 1. Wikipedia on Robert Jermain Thomas: It has a pretty good
> description of Mr. Thomas?s background including his first visit to
> Korea in 1865.
> a. According to the local story, Mr. Thomas was in Hwang Ju
> or Hae Ju in Hwang Hae Do. I was told this city was just cross the
> river from Pyung Yang. So, I assume it?s Hwang Ju. Mr. Thomas was
> selling bibles and my father?s grandfather who attended this secret
> meeting on behalf of family was forced to buy a bible from him for
> three times higher than local black market.
> 2. Question on the identity of Schooner General Sherman: I
> also heard there are debates on which ship this might have been and
> whether the ship was destroyed in Dae Dong River at the time of
> incident. One of articles that you have forwarded to me claims
> that the Ship was returned to the U.S. government and it was bought
> by Samuel Cook on 1867 due to Chinese government?s pressure.
> Personally, I don?t think it?s possible since Joseon was not open
> to foreigners till 1876.
> 3. Survivors: Were there any survivors? Everybody is
> forgetting that Schooner General Sherman was led into Dae Dong
> river by other Chinese junk ships. Crews of General Sherman
> perished but crews of other ships fled.
> 4. Contact with locals: Yes. There was a secret rendezvous
> between crews & locals according to my family.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sun Kim
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 00:25:29 -0800
From: Joy Kim <joykim at usc.edu>
To: "CedarBough T. Saeji " <umyang at gmail.com>,Korean Studies
Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
Cc: Indong Oh <drioh5 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [KS] Help with North Korean song identification
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Hi CedarBough,
My friend (the author of ?? ? ?? ? ?? ?? : ?? ? ?? ? ?? ???) kindly sent the
following lyrics of the North Korean song you inquired about.
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drioh5 at gmail.com
Joy Kim
Curator, Korean Heritage Library
East Asian Library
University of Southern California
University Park
Los Angeles, CA90089-1825
Tel: 213-740-2329 or 213-740-2535
Fax: 213-740-7437
http://www.usc.edu/korea
http://libguides.usc.edu/korea
President
Council on East Asian Libraries
http://www.eastasianlib.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "CedarBough T. Saeji " <umyang at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 10:12 am
Subject: Re: [KS] Help with North Korean song identification
To: Joy Kim <joykim at usc.edu>
> Dear Joy,
>
> I'll stop in if I get over there but these days all I do is type
> type type
> on my dissertation.
>
> So my One Day on Earth contact immediately asked if it was possible
> to get
> a translation of the lyrics. If your friend knows the lyrics I
> guess I can
> translate them (not that I'm good at communist speak, so I'd better
> getsomeone to check my work). If it's not possible, no sweat.
>
> Take care,
> CedarBough
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Joy Kim <joykim at usc.edu> wrote:
>
> > Dear CedarBough,
> >
> > I am happy to be of help, especially when you were feeling let
> down by the
> > list! My best wishes to all your endeavors.
> >
> > P.S. If you have an occasion to come to this side of town,
> please pay a
> > visit to my library. A Bruin-turned-Trojan, I will be happy to
> meet you.
> >
> > Joy Kim
> > Curator, Korean Heritage Library
> > East Asian Library
> > University of Southern California
> > University Park
> > Los Angeles, CA90089-1825
> > Tel: 213-740-2329 or 213-740-2535
> > Fax: 213-740-7437
> > http://www.usc.edu/korea
> > http://libguides.usc.edu/korea
> >
> > President
> > Council on East Asian Libraries
> > http://www.eastasianlib.org
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "CedarBough T. Saeji " <umyang at gmail.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 8:53 am
> > Subject: Re: [KS] Help with North Korean song identification
> > To: joykim at usc.edu
> >
> > > Dear Joy,
> > >
> > > Thank you so much for forwarding the clip to your friend who
> had the
> > > knowledge needed! I must say I felt so let down by the list, any
> > > hint of
> > > discussion of a historical nature and people get 10 replies
> with so
> > > muchwealth of information, and for the first time since 2005 I ask
> > > a question
> > > and I got nothing until you!
> > >
> > > Fortunately I can read Korean, I'll forward the info to One Day on
> > > Earth.
> > > Thank you again,
> > > CedarBough Saeji
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Joy Kim <joykim at usc.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I received the following reply when I forwarded your inquiry
> to a
> > > friend.> I hope you can read Korean. If not, let me know.
> > > >
> > > > "???? ?? ?? ?? ???? ???? ????.
> > > > ??? ??? ??? ???? ?????? ? ??? ??
> > > > ??? ?? ?? ??? ?? ? ?? ???? ????.
> > > > ? ?? ? ?? ??? ?? ??? ?? ??? ?? ????.
> > > >
> > > > <? ??? <?????? ??? ??>???. ?? ?? ??? ???
> > > > Youtube? ??? ?????.
> > > > ??? ????? ???? ???????. ??? ????? ?? ????
> > > > ????.
> > > > ????? ??45(1954?) ???.>"
> > > >
> > > > Joy Kim
> > > > Curator, Korean Heritage Library
> > > > East Asian Library
> > > > University of Southern California
> > > > University Park
> > > > Los Angeles, CA90089-1825
> > > > Tel: 213-740-2329 or 213-740-2535
> > > > Fax: 213-740-7437
> > > > http://www.usc.edu/korea
> > > > http://libguides.usc.edu/korea
> > > >
> > > > President
> > > > Council on East Asian Libraries
> > > > http://www.eastasianlib.org
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "CedarBough T. Saeji " <umyang at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:53 pm
> > > > Subject: [KS] Help with North Korean song identification
> > > > To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
> > > >
> > > > > Perhaps someone can have more luck than I'm having with
> this one,
> > > > > sincesome of you do research on North Korea.
> > > > >
> > > > > The film project One Day on Earth (filmed 10/10/10 and again
> > > > > 11/11/11 in
> > > > > almost every nation on earth) is based here in Los Angeles and
> > > I've> > translated some of their clips, today they asked me to
> help> > with a
> > > > > NorthKorean clip from the 65th Anniversary of the Workers'
> Party.> > > > The clip
> > > > > starts with footage of Kim Jong-il and Jong-un listening to
> > > > > speeches and
> > > > > then transitions into a single dance/song number. The
> quality of
> > > > > the clip
> > > > > is pretty bad, but they want the song identified. After
> Youtube> > > > research I
> > > > > found the same song/dance in context on this clip
> > > > > http://youtu.be/MMhn4C0LKK8 (starting at about minute 9:50).
> > > > > Although other
> > > > > clips in this series identify the title of a medley
> performance> > > > (this being
> > > > > one part of such a medley), since the One Day on Earth
> viewer will
> > > > > only see
> > > > > this single clip, they only want the name of this song. I
> tried> > > > searchingthe identifiable phrases in the song and the
> famous DPRK
> > > > > songs I could
> > > > > think of, but couldn't find a clear match, even with
> headphones on
> > > > > and the
> > > > > volume maxed out it's just not a very clear recording.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've devoted a bit too much time to this already, hoping
> one of
> > > you> > willfind this interesting/easy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have a great day,
> > > > >
> > > > > CedarBough
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ph.D. Candidate in UCLA's program in Culture and Performance
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ph.D. Candidate in UCLA's program in Culture and Performance
> > >
> > > CedarBough Saeji
> > > Address till 08/2011: ????? ??? ???2? 215-31?? 3? (?) 140-867
> > > Republic of
> > > Korea
> > > Permanent address: 220 Snowberry Lane Lopez Island, Wash. 98261
> > > http://www.cedarsphotography.com
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ph.D. Candidate in UCLA's program in Culture and Performance
>
> CedarBough Saeji
> Address till 08/2011: ????? ??? ???2? 215-31?? 3? (?) 140-867
> Republic of
> Korea
> Permanent address: 220 Snowberry Lane Lopez Island, Wash. 98261
> http://www.cedarsphotography.com
>
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