[KS] Hangul question: original graphic distinction between eo (Yale e) and arae ae (Yale oy)

[Samuel Robert Ramsey]

Gee, there may well be some good online source of that information now, and
somebody on this discussion group list may know about it. But as for me, I
still use hard-copy dictionaries originally given/provided to me by SNU
people.

The best, most up-to-date Korean dictionary I personally know of right now
is 표준국어대사전 in three volumes from the 국립국어연구원. Or, alternatively, you could
use 한글학회's 우리말 큰 사전, which has historical forms in a separate, fourth
volume.

But neither of those two dictionaries gives you an easy list of the
Sino-Korean forms you ask about. That's why I suggested Nam Gwang-u's
dictionary, which is explicitly that.

I suggest you ask some of the bright young linguistic and philological
scholars in Korea, who could give you the best advice about where you might
go for the latest in the way of online resources. --But maybe others in
this discussion group could also do that!

Bob

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 9:57 AM, John Armstrong <johna318 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks for the reference. As someone who did a lot of historical work in a
> non-East Asian language field in my younger days I am frustrated by my lack
> of a dictionary that covers Middle and Early Modern Korean and a detailed
> grammar for those periods.
>
>
> I don't suppose there is an online version of Nam Gwang-u's dictionary or
> something like it?  I was hoping that the National Institute of Korean
> Language's new online Urimal Sem would include historical data.  It has
> some for sure but it's not very extensive.
>
>
> -- John
>
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> *From:* Koreanstudies <koreanstudies-bounces at koreanstudies.com> on behalf
> of Samuel Robert Ramsey <ramsey at umd.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 7, 2017 10:57 PM
> *To:* Korean Studies Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [KS] Hangul question: original graphic distinction between
> eo (Yale e) and arae ae (Yale oy)
>
> John,
>
> Glad you're discovering the joy of reading Gari's thesis/book.
>
> I don't know of a specific list of the kind you mention, but maybe you
> could find what you need in 남광우 (南廣祐編著), 古今漢韓字典, 인하대학교출판부, Seoul 1995. It's
> a fairly exhaustive dictionary of historical sources.
>
> Bob
>
>
>>> Do you have a sense of the history of the spellings of the readings of
>>> the characters in question?  In particular, after arae ae merged with
>>> ae, to what extent do you think the orthography continued to preserve their
>>> historical values and to what extent did it confuse or redistribute them
>>> (say, by preferring arae ae to ae independent of the historical value)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps this is something that’s already been studied; I’m personally
>>> totally unfamiliar with the literature and can only guess that it has been.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not a very important question but I’d be interested in any comments you
>>> have.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
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