[KS] Portuguese during Hideyoshi invasion?

Ernie . recanto at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 12 01:49:51 EDT 2007


Uppps... I wanted to say Cespedes stayed in Korea till February/March 1595, 
not 1597. Sorry.

E. de Laurentis


>From: "Ernie ." <recanto at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
>To: koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws
>Subject: Re: [KS] Portuguese during Hideyoshi invasion?
>Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:51:42 +0000
>
>Dear Frank,
>
>As you mention, what is sure is that Gregorio de Cespedes y Simancas (born 
>in Madrid, in 1551), arrived to Korea on December 27th, 1593, and stayed 
>there with the (catholic) Japanese troops probably until February or March 
>1597. Park Chul, but also Juan Ruiz de Medina (Origenes de la Iglesia 
>Catolica Coreana desde 1566 hasta 1784. Institutum Historicum S.I., Roma, 
>1986), have researched it in detail. I even would add there was another 
>Spaniard, father Francisco de Laguna, how also, like Cespedes, travelled to 
>Korea for a couple of months from December 1597 to January 1598 (as it can 
>be read in Shütte, Josef Franz. Monumenta Historica Japoniae I, Roma, 1975, 
>and again, in Park Chul or Ruiz de Medina).
>
>Jesuit sources in Japan and Macao in late 16th Century are very efficient 
>in telling us most of the things they were doing those days, but I haven’t 
>found any input (neither in the Spanish sources) on some suppose Portuguese 
>fighting with the Chinese and Koreans against Japanese in 1597, as I 
>recently read in an article published by Choe Yong-shik in Korea Herald 
>(¿Korea Times?) on May 26, 2000, mentioning the Annals of the Choson 
>Kingdom. Could that be true? Is there any English translation where I could 
>check it?
>
>Thank you
>
>E. de Laurentis
>
>
>
>>From: Frank Hoffmann <hoffmann at koreaweb.ws>
>>Reply-To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
>>To: Korean Studies Discussion List <koreanstudies at koreaweb.ws>
>>CC: http:
>>Subject: Re: [KS] Portuguese during Hideyoshi invasion?
>>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:12:10 -0700
>>
>>>I wonder if any of you could confirm me the supposed participation of 
>>>Portuguese mercenaries or soldiers fighting the Japanese at the end of 
>>>Hideyoshi invasion along with Chinese and Korean troops.
>>
>>Indeed, this seems very unlikely and is probably based on the wrong 
>>reading of a text composed in some archaic Portuguese -- a letter by 
>>Gaspar Vilela from 1571. But Vilela never visited Korea, and no other 
>>Portuguese did at the time. If at all, it were the Spanish Jesuits that 
>>were in Korea at that time, and they were there with the Japanese, not the 
>>Chinese. One of the three generals that let the Japanese invasion army was 
>>the daimyô Konishi Yunkinaga, and he brought de Céspedes to Korea to care 
>>for the souls of his 15,000 Christian Japanese soldiers. See my 2002 
>>posting about the same topic here:
>>http://koreaweb.ws/pipermail/koreanstudies_koreaweb.ws/2002-January/003055.html
>>Many works do refer to de Céspedes erroneously as Portuguese national.
>>For the date you mention, May 1597, I can't find any hint of any mention 
>>of Portuguese either -- at least not in Chinese sources. And none of the 
>>missionary and (Korean) Church histories do mention this.
>>
>>Frank
>>
>>
>>--
>>--------------------------------------
>>Frank Hoffmann
>>http://koreaweb.ws
>>
>
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