[KS] FRANK_baektueso hannakkaji
josh at joshuamargolis.com
Fri May 25 22:06:52 EDT 2007
I believe that section is referring to a somewhat different phenomenon.
There, Martin is talking about retaining the 'l' or 'n' at the beginning of
a morpheme in NK spelling where SK spelling drops it (since it's not
I think what Ruediger is asking about in the case of Halla is more akin to
examples like konnan/konlan (difficulty). This is discussed briefly in
Martin's book, as well, on pages 40~41. Seems that the pronunciation of 'nn'
has changed to 'll' in certain words and the SK spelling changed to account
for this (by changing the initial letter of the second morpheme from 'n to
'l' even though such form doesn't actually exist in isolation) whereas the
NK spelling more accurately reflects the underlying morphology.
On 5/25/07 11:47 AM, "Otfried Cheong" <otfried at airpost.net> wrote:
> Ruediger Frank wrote:
>> THANK YOU! At least one. Indeed, that was what I was talking about.
>> I meant the spelling in HANGEUL. The NKs write: han-na-san. No
>> kidding. Check your nearest NK dictionary.So, what is the solution?
> Samuel Martin's "A reference grammar of Korean" has a discussion of the
> spelling of initial L and N in Hangul in the various spellings of both
> the South and the North (Section 1.6, page 15). Generally speaking, SK
> follows the pronounciation, whileas NK tries to follows the "basic
> and/or historical shape of the morpheme". But it's a complicated
> topic, Martin lists plenty of special cases and exceptions to the rules.
> My guess is that the historical spelling of NA/RA in Halla is NA, and NK
> spelling retains this in spite of the pronounciation.
> The Chinese character for NA/LA in Halla (Unicode U+62cf, see
> is actually extremely rare - there is not a single occurrence in my
> electronic Korean dictionary, it seems to be only used in Korean for
> place names, and even in Chinese it seems to be uncommon.
> The Empas Hanja dictionary lists not a single use
> Some evidence for the historical shape NA is the current Cantonese
> pronounciation (Cantonese is generally a good indicator for historical
> Korean pronounciations).
> Best wishes,
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