[KS] re uri

[will pore]

Dear Ms. Chun,

Thank you so much for the information about the Korean etymological
dictionary. I am very happy to learn more about the connections to Japanese
and Mongolian. So, is it is possible to say that Korean 'uri' is derived
from the Japanese and/or Mongolian, the same as the English pronoun we can
be traced back to an Indo-European or a Gothic (?) source?

Will





On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Kyungmi Chun <kyungmic at stanford.edu> wrote:

> There are several Korean etymological dictionaries written in Korean. One
> way of finding them is to perform a keyword search for 'Korean etymology
> dictionaries' in FirstSearch (WorldCat). One of the dictionaries is:
>
> Title: Uri mal ŭi ppuri rŭl ch'ajasŏ: Han'gugŏ ŏwŏn sajŏn (Chŭngbop'an)
> Author: Paek, Mun-sik
> Publication: Sŏul Tŭkpyŏlsi: Samgwang Ch'ulp'ansa, 2006
>
> Its entry for '우리' on page 398 mentions that it is equivalent to Hyangch'al
> 吾里; Japanese wa[我, 吾], ware, udi; and Mongolian uru-q(親戚).
>
> WorldCat also retrieves an English dictionary of Korean etymology. Since
> Stanford does not own the book, I did not check the contents.
>
> Title: Studies in Korean etymology (2 vols.)
> Author: Ramstedt, G. J.; Aalto, Pentti
> Publication: Helsinki: Suomalais-ugrilainen Seura, 1949-1953
>
>
> Kyungmi Chun
> Korean Studies Librarian
> East Asia Library
> Meyer Library Bldg. 4th Floor
> Stanford University
> Stanford, CA 94305-6004
> Tel.: 650-724-5934
> Fax.: 650-724-2028
> http://lib.stanford.edu/eal-korean
>
>
>
> will pore wrote:
>
>> Dear List:
>>  For the several fine replies I received regarding my inquiry about the
>> Korean pronoun 'uri,' in particular those of Jim Thomas, Ross King and
>> Alison Tokita, I am very grateful for the detailed and useful comments they
>> supplied. While familiar with the similar usage of the inclusive "we" in the
>> unrelated Chinese language and the usages in modern Japanese, the only reply
>> from a list member to mention a lesser known, but, assumedly "related"
>> language's similarity (Mongolian) was by Balazs Szolontai. There is much
>> more, therefore, that I wish I knew. It is truely unfortunate that an
>> etymological dictionary, as far as I know, does not  exist for Korean.  In
>> conjunction with my query, and as only an amature historical linguist, I
>> must mention by comparison the outstanding work of the French linguists who
>> long ago investigated and have written intriguingly on such topics as the
>> origin on tones in Vietnamese. According to their research, Vietnamese,
>> historically a non-tonal, Mon-Khmer language, became tonal in about the
>> thirteenth century under Thai influence. There is that and really much more
>> that seems to have been authoratatively investigated about Vietnamese and
>> other Southeast Asian languages than I am aware existing on the many topics
>> on Korean that historians I think should find useful.  Regards,
>>  Will
>> --
>> William F. Pore
>> Associate Professor
>> Global Studies Program
>> Pusan National University
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
William F. Pore
Associate Professor
Global Studies Program
Pusan National University
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